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Did Ruiz have a lead on all scorecards, when Johnson was DQed for repeated fouling?

 

How does that matter? Ruiz did not outpoint Johnson because the fight never went to the scorecards. Your blatant lying is a disgrace to the memory of John Ruiz

 

Absolutely. It's absurd.

Whether you like Frock or not, he has some solid wins now, and is more proven than at least 43 of the guys ranked above him. Especially Linares. He also hasn't been KO'd in 1 round ::

 

It matters, if we're discussing which fighter outpointed which.

Well, it wasn't Johnson who led on the scorecards, it's been Ruiz.
So, you're saying it's wrong to say that Ruiz outpounted Johnson, before Johnson was DQed for blatant fouling?
I'll be the first one to admit that Vitaly oupointed Lennox, before being brutally KTFOed.
Just like Ruiz oupointed Johnson, before Johnson was DQed.

 

No. you can say Ruiz was leading on the scorecards or, if you want to be technical, that he was on his way to outpointing Johnson (who was behind because of the wrong deductions) but Ruiz did not outpoint Johnson and claiming that was an outrageous, filthy lie

 

Did Ruiz outpoint Johnson before Johnson was DQed?
Did Vitaly outpoint Lennox, before Lennox stopped him?

 

No, both were ahead on scorecards. I am done with your lies, I really thought you were a man of honour

 

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Hell no. Ruiz is a bum and Vitali would have beat the shit out of that little huggie bear.

 

I'm sorry, I don't play the "woulda, coulda, shoulda" game.
I go strictly by what fighters actually've done in the ring.
So, our "bum" Ruiz fought (and defeated) Rahman.....a guy Vitaly was going to fight, if it weren't for those pesky "injuries" (6 in a row, one of them "a torn penisc") that prevented him from fighting The Rock....Vitaly settled on Sanders (the guy who Rahman brutalized) instead....
Our "bum" Ruiz fought (and defeated) McCline.....a guy Vitaly was going to fight, if it weren't for those pesky "injuries" (3 in a row) that prevented him from fighting "The Big Time"....
In other words, Vitaly tried (and failed) to build a career on Ruiz's leftovers.
That tells you something, ain't it?
I always wondered why Ruiz never got "injured", instead prefering to actuallly find out who the best fighter is, in the ring...

 

What retarded reasoning. Comparing against someone Vitali "was supposed to fight"

How about a common opponent. Like Kirk Johnson?

And while you're at it, why dont you try comparing your boyfriends common opponents with little Klits? Ouch, that may hurt a bit.

 

Vitaly signed contract to fight Haseem Rahman. 4 times. In a row.
The fight never happened.
Vitaly never defeated anyone as good as Rahman (one of the biggest victories of his career is over....Corrie Sanders....a guy Rahman brutally knocked out......and the biggest loss of Vitaly's career is to...Lennox Lewis...a guy Rahman brutally knocked out.)
Now, the question is....why did Ruiz fight Rahman at all?
Couldn't he sign a contract 4-5-6-10 times and then refuse to fight The Rock?
Wouldn't that be easier?
Instead, Ruiz went on and defeated Rahman....how quaint!!

 

Round and round and round he goes, where he stops, nobody knows!:doh:

 

I bet he looks like Pete Burns too.:hump:

 

We will stop, as soon as someone provides a coherent answer to the simple question of why Ruiz fought (and defeated) Rahman (and that's not even the biggest name of Ruiz's resume), while Vitaly foug......attempted to fight Rahman 6 times in a row, only to get scared of The Rock each and every time (and victory over Rahman would've been the biggest victory on Vitaly's pathetic resume)

 

Just so you don´t miss the P4P #71 in the world fight on Saturday, check the local listings of the illegal stream of your choice.

Boytsov will take on this monster.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=36220&cat=boxer

He lasted five rounds with a prime Kevin McBride.

:bears::bears:

 

Salgado, the guy who stopped Linares in a minute, and subsequently was ranked #28 P4P by Ring Magazine, was beaten down and knocked out in his first title defense. :atu::atu:

 

El, have you seen the fight? I'm trying to get hold of it.

 

No, I just read about it.

WBVA has the Poonsawat fight from the same card, so I would expect the Salgado fight to pop up shortly.

 

p4p should be about who you would bet on, not who has the best resume. If it was about who has the best resume there would be no point to saying 'p4p'