Pacquaio/Maywweather Agree To Mediator-ESPN

I would think that you would like to find out, there's nothing anybody can do about his last few fights, he passed obsolete drug tests that have been removed from other sports, because they were proven to be useless against particular sophisticated performance enhancers. So, if Manny REFUSES, and tears away from the negotiation table swinging his arms bewilderedly,.. how can it be proven?...He refuses to prove it, no matter how much money is at stake, ...is this not revealing?.. I think ordinarily, it would be, I think it would also be pretty unprecedented for an 'innocent man' to act in the manner that he and his team have, given this proposition.

 

I'd like to find out yes, but to make it fair, everyone should be forced to do more involved testing, not just Pacquiao, and not just because team Flid says so.

 

If it were a bluff tactic to get out of the fight,.. how on earth did he know........that it would work? Alot of people were suspicious about this little man who suddenly hits like a Lightheavyweight,..and Fraud was too... well, now we have a confirmed answer.

 

Is there anything other than a test he won't take that you would consider proof?

You do realize that Manny doesn't suddenly become a user because it is proven, right? He is or he isn't right now.

 

Of course there is, there's the fact that he's passed every drug test he's been given, and the fact that his name has never been linked to steroids in any tangible way.

There's more proof that he's NOT on peds than there is for him being on peds, and it's not even arguable.

 

I don't even read your posts in regards to this topic. You believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that Pacquaio is doping and to me that is just retarded. I'm not saying he's guilty and I'm not saying he's innocent. What I am saying is Floyd is a coward and everyone buying into this PEDs bullshit are merely feeding his next excuse to get out of a fight. Now you go enjoy Floyd fighting Malignaggi and feel all warm and fuzzy inside because he didn't fight Pac.

 

Would you protest, if an Olympian was fined and suspended for refusing to be tested pre-event?.. "Awww what!?.. leave him alone! leave him alone! he's obviously innocent! , he's got nuthin' to hide, he jus doin' it out of pride, superstition, and fear of needles!" ,... Pacquiao's bazerk and instant withdrawal is perfectly, perfectly in sync with what a guilty man would do in such a situation.

 

Likewise, Manny isn't a user because Floyd and company say he is.

 

Pacquiao's side is saying Mayweather rejected an offer for blood testing up to 24 days.

Mayweather's side is saying Pacquiao rejected an offer for blood testing up to 14 days.

They can compromise over tens of millions of dollars yet can't come to an agreement and just say, how about 19 days?

Both sides probably just want to delay it. That'd be all fine if we got good fights in the meantime. Pacquiao against Malignaggi or whomever (apprently Pac rejected Foreman as an opponent) and Mayweather against Hatton doesn't cut it.

 

they need to forget about foreman altogether as a pacquiao opponent. bad idea

 

Pac says he doesn't want to fight him.

 

good. its a shitty fight and Id hate to see that stinky jew get a payday simply because of Arum pushing for it.

 

I agree. Stupid fight. Manny should just wait out Mosley and fight him in the Spring after he kills Berto. If by some miracle Berto wins, fight him.

 

An Olympian would be OBLIGED to take the test per the rules stipulated. Manny is obliged to take the tests set out by the commissions and sanctioning bodies. When he refuses them, I'll accept the cynical arguments. Until then, he is under no obligation to do anything else.

That is a fact, whichever way you try to slice it.

MTF

 

It's so fucking ridiculous, a clean fighter, would not pull this kind've shit. So the official excuse after some initial panick is,.. "It weakens him" .. that's funny because I'm sure plenty of Pacquiao groupies on this forum have had thier blood tested before, a health check for example,...so tell me, did it "weaken you" ... did it really "weaken you" ?...:: ,.. it's never had any effect on me, and I've had alot more than a fucking test tube of blood taken out..

 

And Cotto was under no obligation to defend his belt weighing in at 145lbs as per the rules stipulated by the sanctioning bodies,..

 

Couldn't agree more. Hence:

http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33475&highlight=Catchweight&page=9

Rules are rules my friend. And I couldn't give a fuck who is abusing them...

MTF :flip:

 

How do you know?

As Jake succinctly put it, Manny was playing "big dick" with Floyd.

If I was a fighter, not roiding, and considered the best P4P fighter in the world, I wouldn't bow to team Flid's every fucking whim either.

Team Manny have handled it badly, no doubt, but refusing a ridiculous demand does not imply guilt in the slightest.

Again, in Manny's position I would also refuse, even not roiding.

 

I really doubt he's going to be weakened from a blood test two weeks before a fight. It's an ego, "big-dick" thing (I'll refrain from a racial joke), or a maetter of being on something.

You look at all the explanations/accusations for the fight appearing off and what's the worst? Pacquiao being dirty, Mayweather wanting out, fucking egos killing it. Doesn't really matter, it's the fans who get fucked.

 

Thus, it was a 'special demand' by Pacquiao, in order for the fight to happen, if Cotto did not agree to Pacquiao's clause, the super-fight would have been OFF. Now Fraud has entered a clause into the negotiation process, after Pacquiao had entered a few 'unprecedented' clauses of his own into this contract, and as a result of this clause, a proposed advanced MUTUAL drug testing procedure, Pacquiao withdraws instantly, and now the super-fight is OFF. But Fraud is to blame for making a clause that ensures they're both clean come fight time?

 

Meanwhile, as these two divas were still arguing over the blood testing, this happened:

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-...quiao-Ill-get-30-more-bodyguards-for-campaign

 

I agree.

I believe him to be a user because he walked away from $40,000,000 in order to avoid a few blood tests.

As I said when this all began, for $40,000,000 I would have random televised colonoscopies leading up to the fight. Who wouldn't? To mY great surprise, we found out.

 

Money doesn't mean as much to Manny as it does Floyd. If it did he would be living in LA instead of risking his life running for office in the phillipines.

 

Yeah MWS, but you're a cocky guy. Manny is more of the "I is only doing my job" type...

 

Floyd Fagweather ducked Cotto. Pacman raped Cotto. Fagweather doesn't want Pacman. Simple!
I wish Pacman would've been a bit nastier though. Instead of acting like the typical "I'll fight who my manager tells me to" BS, he should've downright taken massive shots at Fagweather's family, particulary his crazed old man.