Roach: Khan won´t fight Maidana, should vacate title...

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Roach is an all around bitch.

 

Where's the dude who believes Khan beats everyone and their mamma? (slice n dice i believe...)

Seems like Roach doesn't agree with you! Whats your excuse?:stir:

 

From The Sun:

Roach said: "It's a business and it's about the right fights at the right time. There are some good fights out there for Amir.
"He can outbox Maidana but he's tough, a good puncher and you don't want to exchange with him too much."


Now this IS a straight up duck job. Maidana is dangerous, but i'm still suprised by Freddie's comments....he's been singing Khan's praises for the last 18 months or so. Whether this will happen or not will depend on Warren....The only way i can see them willing to give up the title would be by fighting for another title instead.

 

That's the main problem with Maidana for Khan. You can outbox the dude but he's very tough and more importantly he's fast, accurate and powerfull. I would have loved to see this fight. Too bad.

 

At least Roach is being honest about this.

 

I'm not so sure this is a complete duck job. Khan was already expected to dump his title and not fight Maidana because there was supposed to be a more lucrative and better name lined up for him. I think it was Alexander.

 

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Sorry, but this is an out and out duck job. Of course, we all know that it because Khan has a shitty chin, and that it is probably sensible for Khan to stay miles away from Maidana, but that doesn't detract from the fact that it is an out and out duck job...

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If it's Alexander what's the big deal? I don't know why Roach is so cautious of Maidana, Amir would smash him.

 

Obvioulsy Khan's camp doesn't agree with you or they would take the fight. Maidana is one tough fucker and he can crack.

You really trust Khan's chin that much?

 

I do, I think he takes Maidana quite comfortably, I'm dissapointed they don't seem to be taking this fight. Shame.

 

If it's Alexander though all is forgiven.

 

Devon Alexander?

1). Alexander is not a puncher

2). Maidana is a puncher

3). Maidana is long an rangy and can take a shot

4). Khan can't take a shot

5). I thought Alexander and Urango were close to a deal

6). Roach knows Khan can't take a shot just like he always knew Bernard Dunne couldn't.

7). If it is Devon Alexander, does anyone truly believe he's got a higher profile for his win over Witter vs Maidana's win over HBO poster boy Victor Ortiz?

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Slice, I give Maidana a MUCH better chance of beating Khan than Alexander.

Maidana is tough, determined, and can hit harder than anyone Khan has fought, including the guy that KO'd him in 1 round.

 

Khan wants no piece of Maidana because he hits like a motherfucker and holds a good shot. In other words: he's everything Khan needs to keep miles and miles away from.

If he fights Alexanda, so be it, because that's a fight he can win and he gets to trade his WBA belt for another (WBC I think? :dunno:) so I can well understand the logic. I just think that, sooner or later, Khan is going to have to face his demons and get back in the ring with a puncher because otherwise that Prescott loss will follow him about for ever and a day.

Scouring the 140lb division for the most feather-fisted titlists/credible challengers (I'm amazed Mallinaggi hasn't been mentioned yet BTW) simply won't cut it long term...

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As I said I'd rather he fought Maidana so it would shut up a few guys on here, because honestly, it would be a comfortable win for Amir. I am dissapointed it isn't happening, but Alexander isn't a terrible alternative, although I do agree Maidana would be percieved to be the bigger threat.

 

Maidana's a bigger threat because he can punch and Khan doesn't have a chin.

Alexander gives up height and reach and can't punch.

Khan might as well fight Malignaggi.

 

I'm rather sure Maidana would knock Khan out. He'd punch with him and break his glass jaw.

 

I'm sure the Maidana fight will happen sometime down the line. No need to cry ladies.

 

bradley vs maidana is the fight to be made.

 

As it happens, I tend to think that Khan could well beat Maidana. I've only seen Maidana a couple of times (including his tear-up with Ortiz) and he looks fairly crude to me, albeit he can certainly punch and can take a shot. Amir could use his speed to hit and get the hell out of range, and when he sits on his punches he hits harder than Ortiz IHMO and should be able to hurt Maidana.

That said, any decent fighter could land the proverbial fight changer on Amir's glass jaw at any time and that would be that. Maidana has every chance of doing that, of course.

As I said, Khan simply cannot simply bypass anyone who can punch. He has to take a chance eventually if he wants to make a real mark in world terms.

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If he's flat out ducking Maidana now, what makes you think it'll happen sometime down the line?

And ducking Maidana to fight Alexander is not forgivable at all.

Alexander is a much better opponent for Khan.

 

He will, don't worry.

 

He does not hit harder than Ortiz.

You think Ortiz could land multiple power shots on Barrera and not even hurt him?

Khan's punches have some sting on them purely from speed, not unlike Flid I guess, but they don't have much meat on them, even when he sits down on them more.

 

Because Roach pretty much said that it's a fight for the future. I think he would take Maidana right now, but hey, I don't call the shots.

 

MAB is a warrior who has taken more shots to the head than I could count. That Khan couldn't put him down doesn't mean he doesn't hit hard, per se.

Khan's power comes from his speed, as you say. He has fast hands and when he lands flush his opponents don't usually see them coming. Look at the way he flattened Salita with the first fast combo he threw.

That said, I know from experience that you think Khan doesn't hit hard, so I won't labour the point too much...

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MAB is a warrior, but he is an old, featherweight warrior who was there for the taking.

I have no doubt at all that Ortiz would have been able to hurt MAB more than Khan did.

Khan crushing Salita is no different from him crushing Earl. Salita is clearly a bum.

I've seen no evidence of proper power from Khan, just fairly fast, sharp shots that no doubt sting, but no real KO power.

So honestly, the fact that he hit MAB with everything he could and couldn't even hurt him does tell me he doesn't hit hard. Morales hurt Barrera more at 122, and Pacquiao at 126.

I don't think he is feather fisted, I think he probably has Floyd level power. He'll score some KO's mainly from speed, but doesn't have proper KO power.

 

I kinda agree, it's more speed than power, but he isn't feather fisted. Definitely enough power to keep you honest.

 

What the MAB fight showed me is that he doesn't have monsterous power, ala Manny.

The rest of his fights, all of which I have seen, show that he has good power. Not earth shattering power, but good power coming largely from the speed of his punches when he sits on them.

As I wrote before the Salita fight, Khan was a different class of fighter entirely, but Salita had gone 30 odd fights without losing or being KO-ed. Khan flattened him with the first meaningful one-two he threw ::. And, like a lot of Khan's KO's, Salita was genuinely hurt, as opposed to staggered or losing balance etc. He basically flew backwards and downwards into a heap. Limond, who is a good little Commonwealth level battler (I think he's now the CW Champ, in fact) and gave Khan a tough old scrap, dropped Khan like a stone only for Khan to get up and literally smash Limond's jaw apart inside a matter of seconds. Limond is a hard little fucker who, if nothing else, takes a good shot. Khan blasted him.

You don't break jaws or smash people apart in ten seconds if you have no power.

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