Teddy Atlas Manny Pacquiao BOMBSHELL On FNF.

Tests which Freddie Roach said they would accept no less.

 

I agree with this.That's all the had to say

 

This kind of shit is uncalled for. MWS is taking the whole scenerio into context just like I am. Not everyone here is talking from a fan's perspective like Joe King who seems to be nearly as big a Floyd fan as RoyJonesJrP4Pno1 is. Now you won't to talk about sucking off somebody those two guys would be first on the list.

 

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Dude, Look @ your Fucking SIG, then SPARE Fightbeat your LAME Ass Attempts @ ACTING Objective, Aight???...


REED:hammert:

 

REED has a very valid point. You're a dumb cunt lib.

 

What, that little old thing? That's just a joke. Pay no attention to that. Everyone knows Floyd isn't really scary.

And didn't you yourself say that if Floyd doesn't fight somebody after JMM that even you would criticise the move? What ever happened to that REED?

 

WHO has Floyd Fought since JMM???:dunno:....If/When Floyd Fights Somebody Else, THEN Ask REED "What Ever Happened?"...But UNTIL Then, Please STOP Deflecting & Denying YOUR OWN APPARENT BIAS, Dude...



REED:hammert:

 

Dude you're not even a real poster. You don't give opinions on subjects just on peoples replys. You're like the token black guy on a movie, you just come on here and say stupid shit like "that was a dumb post", "this is beyond stupid", or "you're a dumb cunt". Sometimes I even wonder if you're not just a fucking bot. The day you give a decent contribution to a thread that is filled with facts and good arguments will be the first time.

 

:atu:You're actually believing your own bullshit.

PBF hasn't fought anyone else, yet Arum has already set up another fight for Pacquaio on the same date in a bigger venue against another fighter that he promotes in less than a week since a mediator was brought in.


Yeah, it's PBF's fault right? He set up Pac/Clottey at TX stadium.:laughing:

 

My bias? I was replying to the guy name calling on MWS when MWS wasn't acting out in a fan kind of way. Same thing with my opinions on Floyd, I feel he's afraid to fight anyone of note. That's not bias, that's me seeing a pattern which I've addressed several times. Bias would be if I never ever had a good thing to say about Floyd but I'm sure I could dig up posts I've made where I said Floyd is one of the brightest fighters at figuring out other fighters. I even said most of his fights at 140 were exciting. However the last few years of his reign has prompted much criticism from me just as any fighter who pulled what he did would. I've even criticised Shane on multiple occasions and I can dig that up too. If peoples criticisms of Floyd go far enough and force him to actually fight somebody then I don't see the problem. As it is, my opinions don't make me biased when I represent a fighter fairly and objectively. Just because Floyd is being viewed negatively right now does not prove bias it is simply my opinion and you have every right to argue against my opinion.

 

Now REED, if you want to talk about bias...

 

Just like your Floyd Mayweather is a coward thread. Right.:shit:

 

Riiiiiight....

So Even Though YOU PERSONALLY Started a "Coward" Thread & Even Though YOU PERSONALLY Dedicated a "Chicken" Related Sig in Floyd's Honor, N NO Way Should that B Construed as BIAS???...




REED:boohoo:

 

First lets look up the word bias which I'll post from Wikipedia:
Bias is a term used to describe a tendency or preference towards a particular perspective, ideology or result, when the tendency interferes with the ability to be impartial, unprejudiced, or objective.

So to answer your question I'd say no it's not bias. It's an opinion on Floyd that I've focused on lately. It's high time Floyd got criticized for his refusal to fight anyone and prove he's p4p the best as he wants to get credit for. Like I said when Floyd was knocking off everyone at 140 I was right there saying he was the man, but lately he hasn't proven himself or shown a desire to prove himself and he should be criticised for that. Now bias would be YOU never being able to say one bad thing about him? Have you? If not it is you who is biased and who can't view Floyd objectively. If I'm being biased just show me where? Stating an opinion and sticking to it isn't bias. If Floyd actually fights Shane I'll give him all the credit in the world for that, but until he actually does I'll think he's avoiding it. Like I said I even criticse Mosley on occasion so I know I'm an objective poster who is just very opinionated.

 

You just owned yourself.

 

Really? Explain how because I'd love to hear it from you.

 

Arum told BoxingScene on Sunday afternoon that he would be willing to revisit a potential Mayweather-Pacquiao fight in the fall - but only if Mayweather drops his demand for Olympic-style random drug tests.

:doh::shit: ,..the last explanation, um,.. from Pacquiao's camp I believe was,.. it 'weakens him' ...but,..resident groupies realise how fucking pathetic that is, even for a lie,.. (damn why so much lyin' going on from an innocent party?)... anyway,.. which is it officially that you've all settled on,.. "Playing the big dick" seems to be the last resort?.. and if so,..ah,..in the same sentence you blame Fraud for 'cowering out of the fight'..?,.. even though Pacquiao withdrew from the fight, playing the 'big dick'...?

Arum said he was superstitious and has a fear of needles,.. Roach said it weakens him for up to 3 or 4 days,.. even if you were sincerely stupid enough to believe either of those,... what explanation are you going to nominate for Pacquiao refusing a 14 day before the fight cut off date for random blood tests?...

 

I haven't distorted or absolved anything so I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth.

I said Floyd used this as a ploy to get out of the fight. I stand by this. I believe that Mayweather would come up with something else to avoid the fight. That's only an opinion but I stand by it. He's invested too much in his undefeated record and believes that Manny can beat him.

I said that Pac should lodge a protest with NSAC, takes the tests and make the fight. I also said that Pac is most likely on PEDs but I refuse to state it as fact without evidence. If it is ever proven then Pac should be banned from the sport for life.

For some reason, that stance makes me a Pacquiao nuthugger/sack swinger in the eyes of the 'unbiased' Mayweather fans. Like I said before, you guys are getting way too worked up over this. Nothing's been proven and the fight will most likely still go ahead.

Carry on.

 

Neither. Manny doesn't need me to explain his actions nor will I. Do his multitude of weak excuses sound suspicious? Of course they do. Do they prove he's guilty? No. I don't have to choose a reason to explain Manny's decision. The bottom line is he refused to take the tests and only he knows for certain why.

 

So you wouldn't dare guess, why Pacquiao wants random blood testing to stop, approximately one month before the fight,.. ?

Fear of needles? Superstition?.. Weakens him?... do any of those tickle your fancy Lib four Lib?...

 

Like I said. Suspicious, not incriminating. Legally he has the right to refuse the test which he did. The fight's off so there's no point in me discussing the what ifs on whether Manny is doping or not on a fight that isn't happening. It's over, what say we move on?

 

Addressing the topic at hand: Look for an Atlas' RETRACTION very soon...

 

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yeah. Teddy is so calculating and smart. he'd never make a mistake or misjudge a situation.

 

I was hoping the whole controversy was just a ploy to reach a larger audience to make even more money, and that each fighter would take tests that would be deemed clean without even being checked. It looks like it's not all hype, but a fight will be made eventually because there is too much drama to waste. If they don't fight now, they'll do so when they are both washed-up, broke and attention-starved. It'll be advertised as 'Penned Up Fury' or something stupid.

I seriously doubt that either fighter is unfamiliar with PEDs.

Boxing doesn't look any worse than other sports. In my opinion, most people understand that sports are entertainment, rather than fair competitions at this point. Halls of fame and records mean nothing, and the best athletes are likely to be the ones who are desperate and dishonest enough to do whatever it takes to win.

 

To the first point, I agree, but it did seem extremely unlikely. It seemed a bit too much to be just hype, and of course steroid allegations is not a good thing for a sport, publicity wise.

To the second point, well Flid definitely isn't unfamiliar with them, he takes steroids for his hands :kidcool:

 

When did he take steroids for his hands?

 

I wouldn't bank on that. I could see Teddy getting suspended (yet again) or worse, long before he apologizes to anyone about anything.

I am, however, curious to see how ESPN handles it. They haven't done business with Arum in a very long time. It's possible they simply tell Bob where to stick it, especially if such an e-mail exists (regardless of where it originated).

 

Since the Carlos Hernandez fight.

 

Is novocaine a steroid? I thought that it was a local anesthetic?

 

Chances Floyd had to get out of the fight

1) Not backing down to the 50/50 purse split. Easiest way. Could have walked there and then - didn't backed down.

2) Not agreeing to 8 ounce gloves. The standard glove size for welterweights in nevada in 10 ounce. Could have walked - didn't backed down.

3) Not agreeing to the preposterous 10m fine for every lb over. Could have walked - didn't backed down.

4) When Team Pac refused full USAD testing. Could have walked, didn't backed down.

5) When team Pac refused any random testing up to the fight at all. Could have walked, didn't backed down.

6) When team Pac walked away all together. Still comes out and publicly says all he wants is a 14 day cut off. A very easy bluff to call if he is trying to get out of the fight.

I'm gonna come out right and say it - anyone who thinks Mayweather has ducked Pac here is being fucking retarded. Sorry to be insulting guys, especially since I like most the folk who are saying it, but you've got to get you're heads out your asses. It's just such a convoluted, twisted interpretation of what has happened these last 3 weeks.