Hatton isn't retiring...

Are you saying JMM gave PBF the toughest fight of his career?

 

Whilst I agree with your sentiment, in Hatton's case it flies in the face of the clear evidence of anyone with eyes. Hatton's decline should not be measured by his efforts against Pac and Floyd. It should be measured by his efforts against fighter's he was, at his best, significantly superior to. Guys like Lazcarno, who Hatton was seriously hurt by. Guys like Collazo, who almost KTFO Hatton in the 12th of that fight. This is despite Hatton walking through Kostya Tszyu, a noted puncher, a few years earlier.

MTF

 

Hatton beats JMM

 

Eamon Magee knocked Hatton down and buzzed him at least once after.

 

Do you think that Hatton still has the same punch resistance as he used to, then?

MTF :dunno:

 

First, I can't agree with the idea that Hatton walked through Tszyu. It was a close fight lost by an old champion coming off a long lay-off, who loaded up all night and who had clearly lost his hand-speed.

Second, Lazcano is tough as hell. He hurt Castillo - it should come as no surprise he managed to hurt Hatton.

Collazo? He was a welterweight. Hatton was clearly out of his league at 147 (one reason PBF called him out).

Another contributing factor is that Hatton, for most of his career, was hugely over-rated.

It's one thing to fight a bunch of used up veterans and look good consistently, and then step up for one big challenge and look the part.

It's another to fight world class contenders and look good consistently.

It should be no surprise Hatton managed the former, but failed at the latter.

 

Rewatch the first five rounds of Hatton-Tszyu. In at least two of them, Hatton walks straight off his stool and into a flush Kostya right hand. Absolutely flush. He barely blinks and eventually Kostya quits on his stool.

Fast forward to 2008 and Hatton is badly hurt by Juan Lazcarno, a guy who spent about half his career at lightweight. And he isn't just hurt: he's BADLY hurt, as in rocked to his boots. So badly hurt, in fact, that the referee decides to invent a shoe-lace related excuse to break up the action.

Now, don't get me wrong- Juan has laways been a tough bastard. But are you seriously telling me that he punches harder than Tszyu did? Really? Bearing in mind that Kostya was considered one of the p4p hardest punchers in the game at the time.

Then, in 2009, Hatton is bounced around by a guy who, besides starting his career as a flyweight, hit De La Hoya for seven uncontested rounds without seriously damaging him. Literally bounced like a ping pong ball. The first hard, flush shot he took sent him flying. The second had him springing off the middle ropes. The third saw him unconscious, before his head hit the floor, sunbathing in centre ring.

I'm the first to admit that, prior to the Floyd fight, Ricky had become overrated, but up to that point he'd been KD ONCE is his entire (40-odd fight) career. None of Castillo, Urango (particularly a noted banger), Tszyu, Takie, Phillips nor Maussa could budge him. Only Magee had regsitered a KD and a flash KD at that.

Are you seriously telling me that you don't think that Hatton's punch resistance has gone?

MTF :shit:

 

Magee was a decent fighter in his own right, he was doing 12 rounders with Oktay Urkal and by all accounts did not do a whole load worse than people like Kostya Tszyu and Viv Harris did {first time around anyways}.

 

Don't try to argue with Double L, he'll aways squirm, lie and twist the truth.

 

His punch resistance has gone and anyone arguing it is a 'tard.

The question remains....how did it go.

Was it the weight fluctuations, general wear and tear, or the accumulation of punishment?

 

How about that he doesn't train as hard as he once did? Or that he's older now?

Either way, it's stupid to act like he doesn't have the right to continue fighting on if that's what he wants to do.

 

The way I look at Ricky:

1. He has nothing left to prove

2. Anything he does have left to prove, he has fuck all chance of proving it.

3. Anything he can prove now he probably already proved years ago.

In other words: RETIRE.

 

No, Castillo did. I am just saying pointless things just to say them. Kind of like what you are doing.

 

Haton would whip Khan't. No way that fight happens yet.

 

No he wouldn't

 

It doesn't really matter anyways. Khan wont take any fight that has a hint of risk. He knows his next loss is his last, so he takes it handy.

 

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He looks terrible here! Why bother at this point, since he obviously enjoys his time away from boxing? If he does come back, I hope he gets in shape before he even starts training this time.

 

"The Fans Only Saw the 2 Rounds, they Don't Know what was Going On Behind the Scenes"....

"A Lesser Fighter than Manny Pacquiao Would've Beaten Me that Night"...



REED:shit:

 

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Both MeetheFeebles and Double L are making compelling arguments. I don't know who's right. Only way to find out is to have Ricky fight somebody and if he wins Double L was right. If he dies in the ring MTF's was right.

 

What the hell is on his chin? Did he just finish inhaling a Snickers bar or something??

 

itsa coco pop

 

I actually like the idea of a Hatton v Cotto fight but I can't see RH winning it.

Honestly, he may as well retire. He can still clean up back home with the right matchmaking but he's over as a top level fighter.

 

Well Floyd did beat him, Reed.:dunno: