Juanma-Luevano/Gamboa-Mtagwa Weigh in

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  1. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Lopez just doesn't move his head while punching, he is kicking Luevano's ass right now, but he is getting hit with a lot of stuff also..
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Lopez should switch up that right hook...it's too predictable, he need to throw it to the body more often.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Juanma just get retarded sometimes...winging looping while punches missing badly...trying to KO Luevano with every punch. IT seem this fight is going to distance so Juanma should back off a bit and counter punch.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    right hook, right hook, right hook not landing but Juanma keeps throwing it...wat ever happen to a JAB....
     
  5. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Juanma has mixed up his punches pretty well. If he shortened them up, he would stop Luevano.
     
  6. Wiser 1878

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    Good stoppage. Luevano was finished.
     
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    I was expecting a lot more from young Lopez tonight.:warning:
     
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    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Good stoppage. I'm looking forward to Gamboa/Lopez.
     
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    gamboa vs. lopez is a toss up.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Honestly I'd be pretty surprised if Lopez beat Gamboa. Gamboa is not the most polished fighter around, but Lopez is just wide open for Gamboa's fast punches that come in numbers (punchees in bunchees) and offensively I don't think he's anywhere near as good as Gamboa.
     
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    No way. I'd be surprised if Lopez made it past round 6.

    By that I don't mean Lopez can't win. Gamboa is not really proven enough to be THAT certain of him beating Lopez, but this fight is not a toss up. Gamboa should be a clear favourite.
     
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    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Agreed, I say Gamboa TKO5 but Lopez could catch Gamboa and drop him early. It should be entertaining while it lasts, at the very least.
     
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    True. But Gamboa has also been down many times and hasn't faced anyone who can punch like JuanMa.

    That makes the fight even more interesting to me.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    As the fight goes on Juanma get sloppier and dumber. He throws the right hook like a jab going in face first, doesn't go to the body much, against Gamboa he will need to stand back and counter instead of leading.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    So Lopez probably won't be able to survive to round 6, but you won't be surprise if he wins, and the fight is not a toss up...okay..
     
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    True. Gamboa has certainly looked vulnerable and raw, but he has only been a pro for like 3 years, it seems he's improving.

    It's certainly possible that Lopez could just prove to be tougher/more durable etc, or in the same vein, Gamboa could prove to be genuinely chinny.

    But I still think Gamboa should be a clear favourite. He's more accurate, more powerful, and much faster. Certainly no more hittable than Lopez either.
     
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    What the fuck are you talking about? I would be very surprised if Lopez won. When did I say I wouldn't be surprised?
     
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    I'd lean towards Gamboa, but he'll have to be disciplined against Lopez...if he goes in too aggressive there's a good chance he'll get caught and taken out. If he's disciplined and patient, then he should be able to take Lopez apart. He's quicker, and Lopez is too easy to hit.

    btw, when oh when will HBO finally get rid of Lennox from the announce team?...i feel embarrassed for him at times. It's like he just blags his way through every question that they throw at him.
     
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    They also have to remind him that he's getting paid to actually say something from time to time. He goes long stretches without talking and one of the other commentators has to ask him a question as bait to get him to talk again. :lol:
     
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    going by the Mtagwa fights I was very impressed with Gamboa. The last time I saw him was about a year ago and just taught he was pretty good. But he impressed me tonight.

    I lost interest in Lopez when he ducked Caballero. He looked for too many excuses to avoid that fight even after he commited to figting him this January.

    It's good that he took care of Luevano but I never thought much of him either. I used to think Gamboa/Lopez was a toss up but I think Gamboa is just a different level fighter.
     
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    So Lopez struggled and went to hell and back for a decision win with Mtagwa and Gamboa comes and starches Mtagwa inside two rounds. logic states that Gamboa will starch Lopez with ease, right? well, maybe or maybe not. When Hagler struggled with Duran to a points decision and then Hearns starched Duran inside two rounds, logic stated he was going to starch Hagler too, right? So thought many boxing experts. But in boxing anything is posible, as Hagler demostrated ...or as any boxer can too.
     
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    Juanma

    Lopez certainly has the physical gifts to trounce Gamboa,
    but he may need another trainer.

    He makes a few nice moves in there that can only be taught in the gym, but I was expecting a breakout performance tonight, and the kid got tagged too easily, IMO.

    Still, a "W" is a win, and he did his job.

    KARL
     
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    Juanma's performance tonight means nothing in a fight with Gamboa, Luevano is a southpaw and 2 southpaws usually look like shit. Juanma however did look like basura against Mtagwa and that does mean something. We will see if weight was the reason for Lopez to move up or not. Juanma's lack of head movement and Gamboa leaving himself wide open/hands down suggests the level of the fighter may not matter here as the flaws (if not corrected) even out the playing field AND both can punch. I actually look forward to this match.
     
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    All I know is that both guys looked very impressive in their fights tonight and I can't wait to see them 2 get it on. This is a must see fight. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    Man, what a night it was.


    Must say that Gamboa exceeded my expectations last night. Probably his best performance, be it against a subpar guy. Speed, power, athleticism, and he showed discipline, not throwing crazy punches.


    Lopez had the better victory though, because Luevano is a better fighter than Mtagwa. Juanma definitely showed much improvement from the fight with Mtagwa all around. Better combinations, tighter defense, and a good mix of work to the head and the body.



    As far as Gamboa vs Lopez, I've always said Lopez even before and after the Mtagwa fight. To me its not that big a deal of what Gamboa did last night with Mtagwa compared to Juanma because IMO Lopez took his fight with Mtagwa very lightly and was having a ton of trouble making 122 at that. I think its a war, and I see it to be very exciting. But I'll take the better boxer. Juanma is smoother all around, better schooled, has a better chin(Never been dropped), and is more disciplined overall.

    I think its Lopez KO 10 over Gamboa
     
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    Puerto, I totally agree that Gamboa looked better than ever.

    I haven't seen Gamboa's last couple of fights, but he looked significantly better than I've seen him before.

    Before he looked like a wilder, more aggressive version of Khan, but with more power. The same speedy but amateurish style. I wasn't that impressed.

    However against Mtagwa he looked far more in control, less wild, picked his shots, excellent speed and accuracy.

    I totally disagree about Lopez over Gamboa though ;)

    I just don't think Lopez is that good to be honest. Gamboa and Lopez are as hittable as each other, but Gamboa is much quicker, more accurate, and more powerful.

    As I suggested before, someone as unproven as Gamboa is not someone you'd want to bet on, but the only way I can see Lopez winning is if Gamboa really is chinny, or is mentally fragile.
     
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    Question regarding the stoppages of both fights. Was it me but do you guys think that the first fight should ave been stopped a little earlier. I mean dude was taking some bombs whereas in the Lopez fight dude didn't appear nearly as hurt. Now I know that Lopez was gonna stop dude but in my eyes I thought the champion should have gotten the same opportunity as the first cat. I guess better safe then sorry. Still a very good night of boxing! I'll Holla 5000
     
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    I thought both stoppages were about right.

    In the second fight even though Luevano only went down once as opposed to three times, he was looking pretty fucked up around the eyes the last few rounds and he wasn't exactly steady when he got back up. Juanma is pretty accurate when he closes someone out (see Ponce De leon fight). Had they let that go it would have been 12 more seconds of target practice. Luevano was finished.
     
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    Guys, I just want to point out that Arum was quoted before the fight saying there's absolutely no way Lopez and Gamboa will be fighting next. Sorry to kill the buzz.

    Also, was anyone else reminded of Roy Jones/Merqui Sosa while watching Gamboa/Mtagwa?
     
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    Gamboa has been on the floor 4 times. Some say that its a balance issue or inexperience, but the guys he has gone down against are nothing of note.

    Sure Lopez is flawed. And his head movemente could use some more work.

    But Juanma is better schooled and has more experience against top flight opposition.

    But I could see Gamboa stretching anybody he lands on, I agree. He's like a Prince Naseem but with boxing skills. I just question his chin and how he'd react to fighting a guy who can do some damage on him.
     

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