Newly-crowned heavweight champion busted for steroids

According to latest news Finnish heavyweight Jarno Rosberg, who won the heavyweight title of Finland from Juho Haapoja in last November, was caught from using steroids. Both of his samples have been positive

 

Oh, so they are using steroids to detect steroids?:notallthere:

 

This is Finland, cut them some slack, they do everything ass-backwards.

 

No one gets caught using drugs. The tests are a waste of time.

MTF

 

:: Yeah. Seems the tests are much more stringent in Europe! As El-T educated us on recently, they do random blood tests in Germany, might be the same in Finland.

 

I know you're being facetious but the fact is...most people don't get caught. Jameel McCline was never caught. Neither was Tommy Morrison. Evander Holyfield. Shane Mosley. The list goes on.

The fact that some people are dumb enough to get caught doesn't mean everything is a-ok. And the fact that there isn't a test for everything doesn't mean we shouldn't strive for better. Testing in boxing is a bad joke. And, as Kevin Iole pointed out, the bad economic state that Nevada is in right now means that they can't afford to implement more stringent testing. But promoters can. Which is why Wilfreid Sauerland deserves kudos. And so do the countless athletes who have asked their opponents to agree to tougher testing. And kudos to the ones who DID agree. Shame on the one(s) who didn't.

 

Haha! Floyd the Philanthropist.

What a hero he is! :bears:


I wonder when they will start testing for Bulletproof Meth?

 

Floyd isn't the first person to ask for more stringent testing. And no one is saying he deserves some kind of praise as a great man, by any means. But his request wasn't for something that might handicap a fighter (catchweight, glove size etc.). It was something quite reasonable. Sometimes the right message comes from the wrong guy - that's how life is. Doesn't mean we discard the message.

 

good post

This gave me an idea. I bet the commission could afford to take and store blood samples. Then the fighters or the promoters could pay for it to be tested if they cared. And they could do it before or after the fight.

 

Couple things. I've never heard of McCline admitting to steriod use where did you hear this? Not debating it, just curious. I'm also curious who all these guys are that are asking thier opponents to undergo more stringent testing? So far I know of Floyd and Judah.

 

In the article I read about the guy in Germany failing the test it never said anything about it being a random test, or that they actually do random blood testing in Germany. I'd like to see something to back that up before I believe it. People accuse the Klitschko's of steroids all the time, how many times have they fought in Germany? The majority of their fights have been in Germany.

 

McCline was busted in a sting operation - his name was on a list of those being supplied by a steroid ring.

Riddick Bowe demanded steroid testing for Andrew Golota when they fought.

Mike Tyson demanded steroid testing for Evander Holyfield when they fought.

And finally, Tommy Hearns demanded steroid testing for Ray Leonard in their third fight.

I'm sure there have been more requests. It's not something insane, you know. But using the logic being bandied about on these boards, guys like Hearns just had no balls and were looking for a way out.

 

Unless we're speaking on a different fight, it was a random test and it is something I believe Sauerland has put in all of his contracts lately.

 

I hear you. The commission is there to do what the promoter demands it to do. And no promoter is going to risk their fighter getting caught unless they know for sure they aren't juicing.

 

So it's just a promoters thing, not something mandated by any commission.

 

Yup. Isn't everything? Who really pays attention to commissions and sanctioning bodies anyway? They bend to the will of the promoter. That's why we have catchweights, promoters choosing what glove size they want for the fight, ring size, enforcing their own penalties for weight infractions, etc. Basically, the commission is just THERE. It's why anyone should raise their eyebrows when all of a sudden a fighter and his team want to adhere to "commission rules."

 

There is nothing straighter than a straight German. Nothing.

 

Because Vitaly was caught using steroids and was kicked out of his national team.
On a separate note, kudos to Floyd, willing to lose $40 million dollars, but insisting that the fans deserve a clean fight.
It's refreshing to see a boxer putting fans' interests before his own.

 

who won leonard-hearns 3?

 

Definitely Hearns IMO. Anyway, the Commission basically told Hearns to get lost.

 

i was just joking, it was hearns-leonard 2 as they only fought twice.

i agree as well and did know about that. most of the speculation leonard was on roids was that during his "layoff" he nearly doubled in size but retained his speed and stamina.

sugar ray almost certainly was juicing...especially late in his career.

 

My bad, bud. Got confused.

Anyway, yeah and Hearns and Steward were shouting it from the rooftops. The commission told them steroids testing wasn't "necessary."

 

steroids have been rampant in boxing since the late 70s.

leonard, holyfield, tyson, etc. were probably all on steroids. guys like mosely, rjj were even caught on steroids.

they are simply the next step in the evolution of training. first it was weight lifting, now it is steroids.

 

In the 80's, steroids were thought of differently...they wouldn't help a fighter or a baseball player because they would the person bulkier.

True or not, my point is that it was more justifiable back then to be against steroid testing. These days steroids and other PED's can improve damn near any physical performance aspect of humans. And everyone knows it or should.

 

Do you know anything about Lipo 6 from Nutrex?

 

Agreed. It's funny how perception is. When guys in baseball were hitting HRs left and right, I never noticed anything different about them or even thought of steroids (imagine that!). It wasn't until I read Canseco's book that I began to notice things. And I think once that first huge star gets outed in boxing, we'll start to see more people sniffing around and realizing that the whole lot of them are guilty.

 

Tje first huge star got outed years ago. That was Roy Jones Jr. But considering how nicely they managed to cotton wrap that one up, it never really got bigtime attention.

 

He wasn't outed. They didn't even tell us. And they still sorta haven't. Richard Hall just happened to mention it in passing during an interview like it was nothing. And that was a couple years after, no? Wait till a Pacquiao, Mayweather or Hopkins gets outed. That will send ripples.

 

it was quite coincidental that jones jr's positive steroid test happened to be after what was his most impressive display ever in a boxing ring.

 

Toney?