Robert Helenius - Lamon Brewster TONIGHT

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  1. Ugotabe Kidding

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    If you want to see the future of heavyweight boxing, check out this. An unbeaten Goliath, Robert Helenius 10-0 (6) will take on Lamon Brewster 35-5 (30).

    Helenius is a very talented, a bit Lennox Lewis -type fighter with a stiff jab and fluid punches. He got a bad start to his career, going full rounds in four of his first five. Then he started to put up some serious training and he has KOed his last five opponents. In his latest fight he stopped useful Taras Bidenko in three. Bidenko went full rounds with Valuev earlier and did much better against Boytsov too. Helenius is still untested of course but to me he looks promising. You guys probably won't like him because of his style though
     
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    A white Finnish fighter is not going to 'refresh' the heavyweight division, it'll only add to the problem. Besides which, I've seen him,.. and he's like a stiffer, slower, poorer version of Alexander Dimitrenko / Road to nowhere - Talking Heads.
     
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    Have you seen his latest fights against Bidenko or Gammer? In those two he did very little wrong. Early in his career he looked rather hopeless, but he has gotten his game together since. No way is he stiffer or slower than Dimitrenko. Softer he might be, of that we ave no evidence as of yet
     
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    Yes, the Bidenko fight is the one I saw,.. and he's slower and stiffer than Dimitrenko, I seriously doubt he'll go anywhere, Brewster may well just pop this parakeet off his perch, he's awful, absolutely awful and I thought your post above was just a facetious one.
     
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    They make their ring walks now
     
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    yeah maybe outta the ring...
     
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    I saw his last fight, he looked okay is about all I can say about him.
     
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    Massive left hook from Brewster!! Down goes Helen!! Its OVER!!!

    Helenius is still out......but he seems OK.

    Brewster sure knows how to put a hurting on them pale arses!!!
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    In reality, Helenius stopped Brewster in 8. Lamon was a bit pudgy, but came to try. Helenius dropped him real hard in round two, then remained in control and stopped fatigued Lamon in eight
     
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    Helenius plodded to a win over a badly faded Brewster. Yee-Haw, Yee-Haw.

    I will tell you more after I have seen the fight.

    OH, Ugotabe...I need you to translate something
     
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    He just looks like a whole lot of nuthin' ,.. slow, robotic, no workrate, and more boring than Wlad could ever be, his power seems deceptively better than it looks, but that's the advantage of being able to punch downwards on your opponent,..
     
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    Brewster tried but had nothing left, so it didn't even look much like he tried.

    Still a good win for Helenius.

    Not sold on him though, his movement is horrible. He makes Wlad's backward moves look Pernellesque in comparison.
     
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    Wlad has excellent footwork and moves in fluid arcs.

    Helenius moves like Frankenstein with a bad case of bursitis.
     
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    what i said... :dunno:
     
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    He did finish Brewster aswell as anybody has before, I do have to give him some credit for the way he smashed the shit out of him towards the end, and unlike Wlad, he doesn't seem to be nervous or scared of his opponent, so maybe I was a little tough on him, but still,.. his low workrate, lack of speed and concrete footwork will cost him against the more fleet-footed, or the straight up sprinting bitch-fighters like Haye for example.
     
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    REED Couldn't See Much Past the FLABBY Midsections of BOTH Guys...Until Helenius Cares Enough to Do SIT-UP's REED Won't Care about his Career...



    REED:shit:
     
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    Why are the looks of men so important to you, seriously? Helenius has no chest to speak of, his arms are thin and his stomach looks soft. Yes. So fucken what if he knocks his opponents out and has lost two rounds in his career (both against Brewsterm according to two judges)
     
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    Dude. Helenius is a bum. He is just too slow. He is the fat Finnish Pavlik.
     
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    This I can understand and I am not all sold on him either. If you think he is a bum because he is too slow, clumsy or whatever, all good. But he should not be called a bum because he doesn't match your man taste with his looks.
     
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    Why do YOU Give a Flying Fuck about what REED May or May Not Find Important???...Helenius is Built like a MIDDLE AGED Man, which Tells REED he's Going NOWHERE...Is it True that he was Born & Raised in the State of INDIFFERENCE???...



    REED:shit:
     
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    It is not his looks, per se. His looks suggest a man who does not train seriously, or as seriously as he should. He is also slow, a problem which cannot be remedied by training, as such. He is probably better than Chuck Wepner though.
     
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    Stupid... He fought very nervous and cautiously. He admitted to Brewster after the fight, he was nervous as hell. He was throwing much less than Wlad did against a still much better version of Brewster and stopped him earlier.
     
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    Of course, you have your opinions. I just wanted to know if there was any reasoning behind them. That became clear very quickly
     
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    Reasoning???...Typically, FAT Guys SUCK in Boxing...Therefore, if THEY Don't Care Enough to Enter the Ring IN-SHAPE, REED Doesn't Care Enough to Give them the Time of day...

    What "Reasoning" Did YOU Have in Mind???...

    REED:hammert:
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    My reasoning was that since Helenius has never shown any signs of getting tired during a fight while physically imposing guys have, the fact that he is a bit soft at middle should not be the deciding factor when you analyze his abilities. It is almost like Karl's analysis of how many mistakes Manny Pacquiao makes
     
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    His not getting tired has a lot to do with his style of fighting....plod...plod...plod.....and the caliber of his opponent. Of course, fatty/slopey fighters tend not to gas like their uber-muscled opponents, but Helenius has simply not been fighting the caliber of dude who would make him fight at a faster click so we could see how fit he is or isn't.
     
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    Well, I guess my observation was for the way he finished him off, and the fact that he would vary his shots, and kept relatively in the pocket,.. whereas Wlad, probably would have kept jabbing with his right hand up.
     
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    Well then watch the rest of the fight before calling him braveheart. The way Brewster was sleeping upright on the ropes, my great grandmother probably would have chosen a varied attack, too.

    Brwester was in ready to go mode on various occasions throughout the fight, and Helenius stood in front of him like a eunuch around a bunch of virgins.
     
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    His workrate is poor, he's stiff, and pretty slow,.. but he does 'dare' to put a couple of powershots together,.. I compared his shot variety in the pocket with that of Wlad, and I'm afraid to say, Helenius wins in the 'bravery' department here,.. I mean as you mention above, even if Brewster was in such a position against Wlad, he's way too nervous to ever capitalise in the way that Helenius did.
     

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