What are Floyd and Shanes keys to success?

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    Mosley is good at being aggressive. Look at at the Plasterito fight, he beat Plasterito would fairly constant aggression. Constantly getting off first, pushing plasterito off, walking him into the ropes etc. That was an aggressive performance, not the performance of someone with a counter punching mentality.

    Shane lacks boxing IQ and does kind of have the mentality of a brawler, which overall makes him somewhat predictable. I don't think he has the mentality of a counter puncher though.

    He doesn't do very well against fighters bigger than him (Vernon, Wright, even Mayorga to some extent).
     
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    Except Castillo doesn't fight in spurts...

    Anyway I can counter and say...

    "Just imagine a Miguel Cotto boxing performance but with hand speed and faster lateral movement, better ring generalship, defense, acuracy. That's Mayweather."
     
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    so slystaff thinks that Mosley is shit, that this is a very easy fight for Floyd and that he should get zero credit for beating a 38 year old piece of shit slugger
     
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    And I can say Just imagine a fighter who could swim with or without getting wet, That's Mosley.

    My official prediction is Mosley by UD, but I wouldn't be surprised with a Mosley STOPPAGE.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Mayweather
    -Defense
    -Jab
    -Prepare to be hit more than ever before
    -Don't try to grow a pair in this fight, just try to cruise.


    Mosley
    -100% Aggression
    -Don't try to outbox Mayweather
    -Don't wait for Mayweather
    -Go to the body
     
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    Do you think Mosley ALWAYS has to be FIRST?

    Who do you pick right now Illuminati?
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Yes Mosley has to be the first throwing punches ..and also the last. He can't allow Mayweather to get in a grove, landing the occassional lead right/left hook or the jab controlling the action in the ring.

    Mosley also need to work on punching while in a clinch, both fighters clinch a bit in their fights. Mosley usually falls in while missing punches and Mayweather likes to clinch when he doesn't have room to move away. Mosley cannot let Mayweather rest for one second..he needs to be on him every second of every round...
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    And right now i'm going with the safe pick Mayweather by Decision. Mosley is hot and cold fighter some fighter he looks AWESOME ex. Margarito, other he looks shitty Cruz,Espada guys he should destroy...
     
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    Hey staff, your cocksucking pussy hero Fagweather DUCKED Margarito for years!!! :lol::laughing: He didn't want none of Margie! Pussy boy!
     
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    Shane went and fought the best fighters when they were at the top of their games. Vernon, Oscar, Wright, etc. Cockblower Floyd fought only 1 top fighter in the past 5 years in Oscar and still lost in most peoples' eyes.
     
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    Seriously eh?

    Unless Mosley can miraculously reverse time and come into the ring the way he was ten years ago and at the same time Mayweather comes in with an injured shoulder or hand...I just can't see either one of these outcomes..
     
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    Nobody gives a f*ck what you believe staff. Your boy is dead! :mj:
    He's going to get his ass f*cked by Sugar Shane! Shane's gonna end what Oscar began. The plain and brutal exposing of the most overrated overhyped little sh*t on the planet....Floyd Fraudweather Jr! :cheer:
    Motherf*cker ducked everybody and now can't escape his death! No more little men at catchweights, it's now Sugar Time, baby!!!!
    Can't wait for Fagweather's retirement at the hands of Sugar Shane! Oh yes! Believe it!!!
    :popcorn::bears:
     
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    Margarito was only ducked in his own mind!!!

    He was irrelevant...when Floyd was RIGHTLY facing the Zab Judah's and Carlos Baldomirs (one a bigger name who was a former undisputed champion and had a title and the other WAS the undisputed linear champ at the time) as well as the De La Hoyas (154lb xchampion so giving Floyd another division title and still boxing's cash cow). In the meantime Margarine lost to Williams and became even more irrelevant...

    This Floyd ducked Margarito is the biggest load of bullshit on this site..a site already known for having 99% of it's poster sprout bullshit.
     
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    I don't necessarily disagree, I just think his aggression needs to be more controlled. If he goes pedal to the medal, he'll more likely to fall in to clinches and more open to counters and allow exactly what you're trying to avoid, being open to the occasional lead right/left hook or jab to the body.

    For all Mosley might be able to walk through anything Mayweather has to offer. Mosleys' chin is unquestionable and whenever momentum shifts, Mosley might be able to throw the more telling blows.
     
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    Yet you still picked Oscar to beat Floyd. No doubt you will be saying Shane is old, shot and inactive come May 2.
     
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    Oh please, staff! Floyd ducked Margarito clear as day. You can't blame the cunt. Margarito even despite being what you call a MUMMY was a big motherf*cker in that ring and would keep coming and coming at Floyd with everything. Bigger and stronger than Floyd. Floyd didn't even want to test himself against Margarito. He knew with his brittle hands, it could be 12 rounds of hell and trying to keep this f*cking beast off him would've been a nightmare.
    Floyd didn't want none. He ducked Margarito! :atu:
     
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    Theater of the UNEXPECTED, my friend. Age ain't nothing but a number. Mayweather is no spring chicken either.
     
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    Yep, and he retired for 2+ years and at the same time hasn't fought a legitimate prime contender for how long now? He fought Hatton and Marquez outside of their best weight classes and he fought a shot part-time Oscar and fought bums like Mitchell who were past their best and that other bum Baldomir who had no business even being on tv.:lol:
    The death of Fraudweather is coming very shortly! :laughing:
     
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    Mosley needs to bust some spine whenever Floyd illegally turns his back
     
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    He should hit him in the back of the head!
     
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    One of Shane's keys has to be to hit Floyd in the vagina whenever he can, even if he gets a point deducted for it, it'll pay off later in the fight. It'll slow Floyd down and upset him. Try to get some sneaky womb/ovary shots in too. Mosley used to be a good body puncher, but he hasn't been doing at as much in recent years.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    I have no doubt Mosley can walk through everything Mayweather throws at him. Can he land enough punches to slowdown Mayweather in the mid-late rounds is the question...
     
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    Nobody and I mean NOBODY can walk through anything that a sharp puncher like Mayweather throws at him. If Shane thinks that, he's done. That's the mistake Corrales made.


    If a person gets hit too much...they'll get worn down and stopped. The question is whether Shane get's hit as much as i think he will, because if he does...he can and will be stopped.

    Floyd hits just as hard as Forrest (RIP) did in my not so humble opinion. So he can hurt Shane.

    Mike Tyson had a ROCK SOLID chin. ROCK SOLID. Buster douglas hit him at will and eventually knocked him out.

    So Shane is not going to just walk through the same punches that stopped Corrales, Hatton, Gatti, NDou. Shane has to pay attention to defense.

    Y'all act as though Mayweather is featherfisted!!

    Anyway....I can't wait for May 1st. this and many other myths will FINALLY be exposed.
     
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    Corrales was a CORPSE, mentally and physically.

    Not all the XYLOCAINE in the world will make Mayweather to hit as hard as Forrest.:lol:

    When was the last time Mayweather knocked out someone his own size, not some bloated welter coming up one or two divisions? TEN years ago, Henry Bruseles. I know not a level A type fighter.

    That's your worry. That Mosley might not need to be very worried of what's coming back at him. Respect yes but walk right through that shit.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Fuck out of here...Mayweather doesn't hit near as hard as Forrest..and anyway Forrest did not KO Mosley.

    Corrales, Hatton, Gatti, Ndou...now thats a list of the who is who of IRON CHINS...
     
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    Hatton walked through Tzsyu and everyone else before facing Mayweather so you "fuck out of here". :lol:

    Corrales had never been dropped before Floyd, took EVERYTHING Frietas had to offer and pretty much walked through Castillo's best stuff in that first fight. Not saying that Chico had an iron chin...but if Floyd didn't punch reasonably hard...he would have never dropped Corrales FIVE TIMES!!!!
     
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    Sly - I've said for years Floyd has underrated power. But underrated in the sense that some people think he is feather fisted.

    He isn't, but he is not a KO puncher either.

    He drops guys and he gets stoppages because like you said - he is a SHARP puncher. He has sharp, fast, accurate punches that hit guys on the button, often punches they don't see coming.

    But Vernon was a proper hard puncher, Floyd doesn't hit anywhere near that hard. He also doesn't hit as hard as Cotto, Mosley, or Pacquiao.

    The only time Floyd has shown KO power was against Hatton, and to be honest that was partly down to Hatton literally running into the punch and then slamming his face against the ringpost :lol:

    Sly, fancy a sig bet on whether or not Floyd stops Mosley?
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    And he was wobbling around hurt by punches from Luis COLLAZO....:dunno:


    and vs. CORRALES it wasn't MAYWEATHER's power that had Corrales down sooo many times it was Mayweather speed....CASAMAYOR was another speedy guy that had Corrales down a few times...
     
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    Actually, I think both are known to be "speed" guys who have underrated power (Mayweather and Casamayor). But I agree with you.
     
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    T'was speed, yes. But Speed without power doesn't achieve knockdowns and decent KO percentages. Mayweather has some weight in his fists as well.

    Either way though while I'm not saying that mayweather is a power puncher ala Pacquiao or Cotto...his punches are sufficiently sharp to hurt people. Bottomline..Mosley can't just walking through this man's punches and not feel damaging effects. If he thinks he can..then he's already lost.


    And Mexican Wedding shirt....

    SIG BET IS ON!!
     

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