What are Floyd and Shanes keys to success?

The truth is Floyd has similar power to Casamayor. Both have sharp, fast shots that can sting, no doubt. Neither are really KO punchers though.

 

OK cool. Let's say 2 weeks or so, and whatever goes right? Including content relating to religion? :kidcool:

 

Shane has a better chin than all of those guys, no comparison really.

 

SSM has to use whatever advantages he has (Strength, size power) but in a controlled way.
He has to control the distance. If he gets too close he will just recieve an elbow/ forearm in the neck.

He has to not paw with the jab or come forward without moving his head (both of which he tends to do).

He also needs to get off first & counter-punch

However, SSM has lost a step or two & has not got the reflexes to get off first, or counter PBF as he may of when he was younger, & may have been able to break PBF down

PBF is also the better ring-general.

PBF as others have said, just needs to be PBF-fight not to lose

 

Yes he does.

Which is one of two reasons I'd be honestly pretty shocked with a Floyd stoppage. The second being that Mosley's offense is nothing to sneer at, even pushing 40, he's still quick at 147, and he can still punch.

It's going to take balls to open up enough to stop Shane, and I don't think Floyd is prepared to take the risks. He's going to potshot, and it's going to take more than potshots to KO Mosley.

I guess it's possible that Mosley could get tired and frustrated, from the elusive Floyd, and MAYBE get so tired that Floyd stops him with minimal effort, but I don't see it happening.

Which is why I'm sigbetting Sly :kidcool:

 

There is no fucking way Floyd stops Shane. I don't care if Mosley walks into something crazy by mistake. He will still shake it off. His chin is granite.

Besides Floyd will be happy with the UD! He has showned already that he won't take risks in big fights.

he wouldn't take risks over JMM who he outweight by 20 pounds or more and was outclassing him all night.

 

Margarito has the same skill level as Baldomir. No defence and slow as hell.

 

Typical bullsh*t Floyd fanatic post. Not even worth a response.::
Your boy ducked him, that's the plain simple truth. All this loaded gloves BS aside, Floyd wanted no piece of Margarito.
Every motherf*cker on this board wanted Floyd/Margarito WAY BEFORE Floyd/Bumdomir.

 

Shane has to dedicate his entire training camp, to punch in unorthodox places, he can forget about hitting Fraud square in the face, that's not gunna happen. He must devise a plan to time shots to Fraud's brainstem,.. and he cannot 'square up' ,..he'll have to jump out to Fraud's left a bit before hopefully chopping down on the back of that neck,..it's a tough task,.. but it's the only way to get him, due to that illegal shoulder roll shit.

 

Sure they wanted it and if they got it Baldomirs name would be switched over with Margaritos now by people like you. Watch how you give Floyd no credit for beating Shane on May 1, that is of course if Shane don't get busted for steroids randomly.

 

If Floyd is to be given credit, then he better f*cking fight Shane like a real fighter. Not that backfoot shoulder rolling pussy bullsh*t he pulled against DLH and Baldomir. That sh*t was so f*cking lame, crowds pulled out midway.
I'm telling you now. The only time there's a fight going on is when Shane is moving forward. If he ain't moving forward, there ain't gonna be a fight at all cause pussy Floyd ain't gonna step in on Shane and initiate exchanges. He's gonna do his usual bitch moves of slipping, tip tap sh*t and running for his life like a 2 cent whore!

 

Look at the swelling on Pussy Boy Floyd's right eyelid, not to mention getting caught by a slow inactive part-time Oscar's right hand. Pussy Boy Floyd is lucky he fought a totally shot Oscar who was far removed from his best.
Pussy Boy is DEAD! Shane is gonna end his life!!!!

 

Even by YOUR Standards, this is a LAME Ass Post, Hanz...So Basically, U've Set it Up Nicely So U WON'T have to Give Floyd Credit for Beating a Man who's ARGUABLY THE BEST Welter in the World...

How Convenient...

REED:boohoo:

 

Bullshit. Margarito is waaay better than baldomir. If u believe otherwise u don't know shit about boxing.the vast difference in ability is the reason mayweather jr wouldve been a foolis business man to face margarito instead for similar money

 

Good to read a PBF fan admit this.
It really has been getting ridiculous lately.

 

He IS???:dunno:...The Only DEFINITIVE Edge Margarito had on Baldomir was POWER & We NOW Know what that was Attributed to...No, Floyd SHOULDN'T have Faced Margarito Instead (Especially Considering Margarito's TACTICS Wouldn't B Discovered for Another COUPLE Years), but he'd have BEATEN Margarito in Similar Fashion that he Beat Baldomir...


REED:hammert:

 

Case in point.

 

Margarito is also taller, rangier, busier, and has a wider offensive arsenal which punches coming from all sorts of angles. He'd throw with his feet set or when he was on the move, uppercuts from the outside or up close.

We don't know how much we can attribute to his disgusting tactics, but he definitely had more tools than Baldomir.

 

:boohoo:

 

REED ISN'T Saying they Fought the Same or were Built the Same; What REED is Saying is that Floyd would've BEATEN Margarito SIMILARLY to how he Beat Baldomir...Especially WITHOUT Loaded Handwraps, Margarito would've Had about as Much of a Chance as Baldomir Did...



REED:hammert:

 

You already know my stance on the whole shoulder-rolling, back-footing pussy style of Floyd's. It's just how it is. It's why I hate his guts in the first place. For a motherf*cking big mouthed SOB to be acting all big and bad on Ring Magazine with an uzi, dressed as Tommy Hearns with a tough guy look on his face and disrespecting the greats of the past and acting like his sh*t don't stink only to be boxing like a bitch in boring 12 round fights, stealing peoples' ppv money and talking like a bad ass while crying like a cunt in public cause he can't get no love.
I agree with you on a lot of things but I don't get the love for this guy AT ALL! If anything, this is the type of guy who needs to be eliminated from the sport! Handpicking bitch fighting smaller men and shot old men and acting like he's God. F*ck that!

 

Damn straight. The majority of these Fraudweather fans are trying to cover his ass any way they possibly can.

 

That's the difference between u and I, panz. I acknowledge talent. U, on the other hand are the most diabolical hater north of the border

 

Yeah, and DLH was gonna massacre Pacman according to you and everybody else. Stop covering Fraud's ass and admit the obvious, REED. He chickened out, plain simple truth. He didn't want to fight Margarito AT ALL. Fraudweather doesn't welcome challenges. He wants the easy matches! He knows his brittle hands might have broken from the 12 rounds he'd need of trying to fend off the much bigger Margarito.

 

Don't disrespect. I gave very good reasons for hating. And my reasons are valid. I acknowledge talent too. But I don't acknowledge little sh*theads who talk the talk but don't walk the walk and go around acting all big and bad like they own the world. That sh*t doesn't sit well with me. Cocky motherf*ckers need their asses put in place. It's just how it is. The same reason people wanted to see Tyson get his ass kicked in 96 because he started acting like nobody could stop him after he ran through a bunch of handpicked scrubs.
Same sh*t with Fraudweather.
Maybe in real life he's the coolest and nicest guy in the world. But I'm just going by the persona he himself created and enjoys displaying in front of cameras.

 

If only emicons were the same as making a valid point...

Originally Posted by REEDsART
He IS???...The Only DEFINITIVE Edge Margarito had on Baldomir was POWER


Originally Posted by Erratic
Margarito is also taller, rangier, busier, and has a wider offensive arsenal which punches coming from all sorts of angles. He'd throw with his feet set or when he was on the move, uppercuts from the outside or up close.

Originally Posted by REEDsART
REED ISN'T Saying they Fought the Same or were Built the Same; What REED is Saying is that Floyd would've BEATEN Margarito SIMILARLY to how he Beat Baldomir..


You can't even follow your own argument for more than one post in a row.

 

REED MADE a Valid Point; that Being, Floyd-Margarito would've Looked SIMILAR to Floyd-Baldomir...

U've Been PMS'ing (How's that for Highlighted Words???) in REED's Direction for QUITE Awhile Now...Unfortunately, REED WOULDN'T Give a Pint of PISS NOR a Flying Fuck to Find Out WHY...


REED:boohoo:

 

Floyd ISN'T Obligated to Fight how YOU Want him to Fight, Hanz...

If Tommy Hearns ONLY had a Chin...If Pernell Whittaker ONLY had Power...If Roy Jones ONLY Jabbed More Frequently...If Ali ONLY Went to the Body More...U CAN'T Penalize Guys for their Skills, Talents OR HOW they Fight...



REED:kidcool:

 

Easy tiger. There's no need to get upset.

I'm just discussing boxing on a message board with you in a pretty traditional "boxing message board" manner

In this case, I replied to Neil commenting on how ridiculous I thought it was that some considered that Margarito was no better than Baldomir.
It just so happened that the very next post was you saying exactly that...
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Anyway My point is that initially you said that "The Only DEFINITIVE Edge Margarito had on Baldomir was POWER"

Then Erratic pointed out that he ALSO has an edge in as much as he is:

"...also taller, rangier, busier, and has a wider offensive arsenal which punches coming from all sorts of angles. He'd throw with his feet set or when he was on the move, uppercuts from the outside or up close."

However, rather than addressing that at all, you conveniently interpreted his post as saying merely that they were built differently & fought differently.
Sure they are, but what Erratic was pointing out to you is that Marg is a BETTER fighter.

 

As has been said before, Floyd's got to box and use the ring, use his jab and straight right hand to disrupt Mosley's rhythm. Mayweather is very good at nullifying the most dangerous punches of his opponents (Corrales's left hook and infighting, DLH's left hook, Hatton's left hook to the body, Judah's left uppercut after the first couple rounds although you can say that's just Judah being Judah).

Mosley has that looping overhand right which he'll look to land, the same punch that Marquez landed a couple times (maybe the only punch he seemed to land somewhat clean). Mosley also has that left hook, which did the job in his last two bouts. So Floyd's got both of those punches to look out for.

Mosley also should try to get his body attack going, as he's always had a good body attack. It was a key weapon in both DLH fights, Margarito, numerous others, and I think he hurt Cotto late in the bout too with a left hook to the body. Going to the body leaves yourself open, so of course Mayweather's got to look to counter Mosley to make him pay when he tries to attack Floyd's body. Maybe land that short right uppercut upstairs if Mosley throws the left hook to the body, although Mosley might do it from a farther distance due to his range.