What are Floyd and Shanes keys to success?

Yeah, he wasn't. Mosley was thought to be done at the time. Come on, Mex I'm sure you remember.

 

Not really, to be honest.

I mean I knew Shane's best days were behind him, but I thought he was still considered to be one of the best welterweights in the world, above people like Clottey and Cintron.

His loss to Cotto was damn close, and although he struggled with Mayorga, that was at 154, and for some reason Mosley has NEVER looked good at 154.

I think most people picked Plasterito, no doubt based on the Cotto win, but Shane would have surely been considered the second best fighter of his career.

 

Actually, he wasn't considered above guys like Clottey then. He was a pretty big underdog against Margarito and while we can look back in hindsight, his showing against Mayorga had convinced everyone he was on the downward spiral.

 

Maybe. I mean I do remember people loudly proclaiming Shane was shot etc after Mayorga, but you ALWAYS get those kneejerk reactions after a fight, whether it's a particularly good/bad performance etc.

I thought he had slipped, of course, but I didn't think he was shot, and I would have thought most people would have still considered even that Shane to be the second best opponent of Margarito's career, including plasterito himself.

What is your opinion on when Marge started loading his gloves?

 

You've got to remember that this was the consensus then. Shane was a heavy underdog for a reason.

As for Marg loading his gloves, what can you say? Such a shame. I'd have to assume he did it for a long time. Which would explain why he was so good. And he really was good - very underrated (particularly on these boards, I noticed) for a long time. Was glad he got a chance to prove it against Cotto but very disappointed to find out what he was up to. But that's one trick, there are so many more that boxers use. He just got caught and deserves any punishment - and then some - that he gets.

 

Margarito was a harder puncher and we all know why now.

 

Your pussy hero couldn't even stop a shot inactive Oscar and barely scraped through by a split decision.::

 

Do you think thay Shane Mosley ducked Paul Williams?

 

Oscar wasn't shot against Floyd, but he was shot as hell against Manny.

 

oscar was a part-timer and completely out of it. He came for the money. And he still punked Floyd.

 

A lot of guys have avoided Paul Williams. At least Margarito fought him. Something cuntweather will never do. Cuntweather wouldn't even fight Margarito.

 

Yup..

Paul Williams, Winky Wright and Margarito are the most avoided fighters in history.

Actually everyone's also ducking Bradley Carby.

No one should be called pound for pound anything until they fight Bradley Carby...

 

:dunno:

 

I'd like to see Shane go out and bang him to the body and head with HARD CONSTANT PRESSUE and stop him!

but I feel like Floyd could circle, and box and control and win that way.. but i keep thinking Shane is too strong

 

Problem is when Shane is in the clinch (initiated by him or not) he's not as busy as he could be inside.

He'll need to be very rough against Floyd and not wait for the ref to restart the action. His strength can only be a factor if he makes it one.

 

I agree, and FLoyd is a master imo, will take it away from Shane and win, but to see Shane win he needs to pressure, renelentlessly like a freak. by strong i dont mean, just in tht clinch but punching too, he's not a one punch out cold but he throws every punch hard and a lot of them somtimes

 

That will just tire him out if he misses a lot which is likely to happen against a guy with Mayweather's defense.

 

I hope Nasim Richardson is still Mosley trainer. He the weaknesses in Mayweather style and help MOsley expose them...

 

I agree, i'm picking Floyd to win, but i'd like to see Shane break him down and stop him::

 

I always knew deep down you hated Fraudweather, LOK! :bears:

 

As the fight draws nearer, the more confident I become in Sugar Shane battering the absolute piss out of this overrated chump and retiring him permanently. Fraudweather is finished!!! :kidcool:

 

Yeah, Shane is stronger but I actually think Floyds strenght is quite underrated. Plus he is just better and craftier inside IMO so that would make it hard for Shane.

 

One of Floyds strengths is that Floyd vs Pac is a huge fight, bigger than Mosley-Pac, so they {HBO, Oscar, the usual shits} wont be in a rush to make sure the referee and judges give Shane too much latitude. Just like Cortez gave Castillo nothing in the Hatton fight, so as not to jeopardize the inevitable fight with Mayweather.

 

Good point.
If there are any close rounds, they are likely to go to PBF.

 

I hadn't given it much thought, but yeah, that's pretty obvious. They won't want to put a damper on Pacquiao - Floyd. Mosley is going to have to work extra hard to win those rounds.

 

Cheers. I mean, let's face it......Castillo vs Mayweather III at 147 didn't have the same ring to it as Hatton-Mayweather. It would have made less money, less glamour, less pugilistic significance.

Who wants Mosley vs Pac when they can have Pac-Floyd.

Mosley is unlikely to get any of the breaks. It's bad for business right across the board, and, at the highest level, the powers-that-be will justify the decision to screw Shane by emphasizing the financial aspects of allowing a former steroid user to get any breaks vs Floyd.

In short, there is no way, officially, that any breaks will fall Shanes way, and if I was him, I would make sure to go for the KO right from off and to resist the appointment of Nady/Cortez as ref, assuming that is still open to discussion.

 

Now that you've got me thinking about that side of it, I anticipate a lot of below-waist bending, back twisting, & throat elbowing (forearming) with impunity.

 

Forgetaboutit. It's a done deal. My guess is Cortez, despite NUMEROUS fuck-ups, will get this gig. And we all know what Jay Nady thinks about "holding".

I also have a feeling that Shane, who is now on the wrong side of 30, and on the wrong side of a messy divorce, could in fact meekly go along with the entire thing, collect his money, say he was robbed, and start talking about a fight with Clottey or Berto again.

In fact, as the fight winds down, we can expect to hear Kellerman and Lampley boldly declare that "Shane Mosley has given a great account of himself and should still be in line to fight the unbeaten Berto blah blah blah"

 

Nady would deduct points for using superior strength as an advantage.

 

And Cortez thinks a swift elbow to the voicebox is good in-fighting. And that holding is bad. Unless Bernard is fighting.

Cortez is so badly compromised its unreal.