I just watched Mayweather vs Castillo I for the first time...

Castillo fought better in the rematch. Floyd was just MUCH better than he was in the first fight (injury free). The Castillo of the rematch may have beaten the injured Floyd of the first fight...

 

Don't recall if Castillo was better the second time around. I kind of doubt that was the case but I barely remember so it's nothing I'd debate. Floyd was definitely better though, that I remember for certain.

 

are they laughing at the fat black girl dancing and falling down from the desk?

 

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These R the Type of Fights that Force REED to KEEP his Round by Round Accounts...Opinions Get Thrown Every Which Way, w/NATHAN of Substance Supporting it...

"Castillo was Robbed"..."I Had the Volume DOWN, Floyd WON"...Blah, Blah, Blah....

Here's REED's Account, Start to Finish...


*Castillo 9 lbs Heavier on Fight Night

1. Castillo's only Punch of Consequence is a Left Jab Early....Floyd Responds w/a Lead Lft Hook...Floyd's Speed is the Story of the Round & Castillo is Fairly Cautious as Floyd Lands Lead Lefts & Rights....Several Left Jabs to the Body from Mayweather...

Mayweather's Round 10-9


2. Mayweather Asks his Cornermen 2 Massage his Left Shoulder btwn Rounds...Castillo Trips as he Blocks a Shot from Mayweather....The Fighters Butt Heads, Opening a Slight Cut on Floyd...Castillo Wins the Early Portion of the Round on Sheer Activity, Landing Bodyshots & a Couple Left Jabs...Floyd gets his Own Left Jab Working Again 2 the Head & Body...Floyd Lands a Left Hook & a Good Counter Right, Off the Ropes...Couple Overhand Rights (Head & Body) from Floyd...

Mayweather's Round 10-9


3. Floyd Dominates the Round, Almost Exclusively w/his Left Hand...Jabs to the Head & Body & Some Good Counters...Nice Right Hand Late from Floyd...Castillo is INeffectively Aggressive, just Following & Missing...

Mayweather's Round 10-9


4. Castillo is More Aggressive, but Lands Virtually NATHAN, til a Jab & an Uppercut Late...Floyd Wins Looooooooooooonger Stretches of the Round on Left Hand Dominance...

Mayweather's Round 10-9


5. Good Round for Floyd...He's Mobile, Causing Castillo to Miss & When he Does, Floyd Makes him Pay...Left & Right Hand Counters...Left Jabs from Floyd...Big Counter Later Causes Castillo to Spin...

Mayweather's Round 10-9


6. Tough Round to Score...Floyd Wins Early on Left Jabs...Castillo Lands a Good Right Hand....Floyd Lands Some Jabs & Counters....Castillo is MUSCLING Floyd & Landing Some Shots....Bit Counter Late by Floyd but he Looks VERY Uncomfortable....

EVEN Round or Slight Edge to Floyd


7. Big Round for Castillo...He's Finding the Range & Landing w/Both Hands on Floyd...HARD Shots...

Castillo's Round 10-9


8. Clearly Castillo's Round...He Matches Floyd's Output of Headshots, N Addition to Landing Body Blows...Castillo LOSES a Point for Landing a Left Hook on the Break...

Castillo's Round, but w/a Point Deduction, 9-9


9. BIG Right by Castillo Causes Mayweather to Hold & Look Unsteady...Floyd Responds w/2 Lead Left Hooks....Tough Round to Score...Castillo More Aggressive, Landing Body Blows....Mayweather Countering Well....More Hard, Flush Shots from Castillo...

EVEN Round or Slight Edge to Castillo


10. Pretty Good Round for Floyd...He's Landing @ Will, Countering Beautifully...Castillo Closes Distance Late & Lands...Count Drakulich Deducts a Point from Floyd for Pushing Off w/his Elbows....

Floyd's Round, but w/a Point Deduction, 9-9


11. Tough Round to Score...Floyd is Flat-Footed, Trading w/Castillo on Even Terms...Castillo Also Lands to the Body...

Castillo's Round 10-9


12. Castillo's Round on Aggression & Bodypunching...

Castillo's ROund 10-9


Recap: REED Gave Floyd Rounds 1-5 AND Round 10 (Point Deducted in the 10th) CLEARLY...REED Gave Castillo Rounds 7, 8, 11 & 12 (Point Deducted in Round 8) CLEARLY...

REED Scored Rounds 6 & 9 EVEN, but Could Make a Case for Floyd Winning 6 & Castillo Winning the 9th...Giving Castillo EVERY Benefit of the Doubt, the MOST REED Can Give him is a 1-Point Win...As is, REED Scored it 115-113 for Floyd...

REED Suggests SCORING the Fight Before Proclaiming it a "Robbery"...It WASN'T...It was a CLOSE Fight that Could've Went EITHER Way by a POINT...



REED:hammert:

 

Just Pointing Out your BIAS, that's All...Pac-Marquez II was Actually a MORE DISPUTED Decision than Floyd-Castillo I, in REED's Opinion...Pacquiao LOOKED DEFEATED as the Scorecards were Being Read...



REED:hammert:

 

REED Scored 1 Deduction Round for Castillo (Round 8) & 1 for Floyd (Round 10)....& REED Scored the 11th for Castillo yet STILL had Floyd WINNING 115-113...




REED:hammert:

 

Damn...The Mere THOUGHT of Manny Pac LOSING Rubs U the WRONG Way, Huh???...


REED::

 

Exactly...

Castillo Seemed to Get Stronger & STRONGER as the Bout Went On...It's 1 of those Bouts where U Can Say, "If this was a 15 Rounder...." & U'd B RIGHT...Unfortunately for Floyd Haters, it was a 12 Rounder & in that Timeframe, Floyd WON the Fight...

Not IMPRESSIVELY, but he EEKED it Out...



REED:hammert:

 

The fact that Floyd struggled with a lightweight as rudimentary and slow as Castillo makes me wonder about Floyds true all-time ranking. I think Floyd would have struggled with guys like Arguello, Duran, Pea Whittaker, Ike Williams, Homicide Hank etc. Castillo never really won a massive fight in massive style. His drawn out affairs with the under-powered {though smart} Stevie Johnston show him up for the sort of fighter he was. A guy like Floyd should have had no end of fun with him.

 

The RE w/Chico Corrales was MASSIVE...Castillo LOST the 1st Bout Dramatically, the RE was a No-Brainer & JL WON it in Style...Yep, he Came in Overweight, but he Also KO'ed Chico Corrales...BADLY...Arguably THE Most 1-Sided Loss of Corrales' Career...

JL Castillo was just SHORT of Great, but he was Very, VERY Good....



REED:mj:

 

Agreed. I hate Floyd, I think he's everything that's wrong with boxing, and I will savour the day he lays prone on the canvas. But he IS undefeated...

 

seen :kidcool:

Still I think you should look at round 8 again. Clear for Floyd IMO.

I can see the 11th going to Castillo. It was a close round. But as you said..Floyd won that fight. Shouldn't even be a debate.

 

????????????

That fight was what, 10 years ago or so?

What is the point of this thread?

Floyd won fair and square both times, close the first go around, but he won clearly.

The commentators on HBO do not score fights.

 

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AgREED.

 

Round 1-5 : Floyd
Rounds 6 and 7 : Castillo
Round 8: Floyd (10-8 due to point deduction)
Round 9: Castillo
Round 10: Floyd (Even because of point deduction)
Round 11: Floyd (although an argument can be made for Castillo)
Round 12: BIG round for Castillo

8 rounds to 4 for Mayweather. I can except 7-5 depending on how the 11th is scored.

 

BTG is right though. Most people had that a razor close fight even if they had JMM winning. Giving JMM 8 or 9 rounds, and then criticizing other people? Mayweather-Castillo was close as hell as well. IMO the cards can be anywhere from 115-113 for either guy or a draw. There's enough close rounds to have those scores.

 

You exaggerate.There was a ton of people who had it one round for Marquez or Pacquiao.Stop being ignorant nigga.

 

1. this was Floyd in 2002 before "Money"

2. he did have to fight Castillo again...it was a fight we wanted to see

3. the rematch WAS the headliner but Floyd was such an ass in the buildup to the fight it became the opening bout to a Klitschko fight...forget which one...perhaps Wlad's fight with Shufford or McCline...one of them.

 

Don't recall the round castillo lost a point "however" the round Floyd lost a point it's pretty clear he won it.

9-9 round.

I scored the fight a draw.

 

1st of All, DROP the "N-Word" Bullshit, "Homey":shit:...2nd of All, YOU Started this Thread Acting as if there's NOfuckingWAY Floyd Beat Castillo, yet You're Getting All MENSTRUAL when People Say LIKEWISE about Pac-Marquez II???...

If that AIN'T Bias, what Is???...


REED:boohoo:

 

I think the biggest take away from the PBF/Castillo fight is the reality that PBF, "when" he faces his division's best, is without a doubt vulnerable.

I thought Castillo deserved the decision - but either way you look at it, PBF's claim following the fight that he easily out-boxed Castillo was ridiculous.

 

Well...all fighters are human and therefore vulnerable but let me ask you this:

Was Corrales NOT the division's next best fighter at the time when Floyd dominated him?

 

I'd say "yes" but I've heard others cast votes for Freitas and Casamayor.

 

The consensus at the time was that Corrales was the top man besides Floyd. EVERYONE was talking about Corrales this and Corrales that. I think the odds for the May-Chico fight were close to even.

 

they were. it was a -125 +105 type deal, which in gambling lingo means even money.

i think the consensus was chico was going to win.

 

and i think it was possibly 6-6 with a deduction for mayweather (which was bs)

the most important point of the fight however is that mayweather fought injured. castillo was just as good in the rematch and a healthy mayweather whipped him.

 

well, let's start talking about PBF like he's human then.

 

....but let me ask you this:

Was Corrales NOT the division's next best fighter at the time when Floyd dominated him?