Manny Pacquiao retiring after Clottey fight?

I just read about it on ESPN

 

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That was helpful.I just want to know if it was true or not.

 

E.S.P.N, which is Latin for "Bullshit".....

 

if that's true....then he's definitely using P.E.D.s!

Reminds me of Flo Jo retiring just after she broke all manner of records and looking better than she ever did before...

 

Nothing of value will be lost.

 

Qwerty levels of retardation.

 

Nah. If he was an olympian he might think fuck, I'm going to get caught etc. In boxing, all he has to do is provide a post fight piss test.

If he is juicing, the chances of him getting caught under the standard testing are as slim as before all this faf started, therefore it would be no reason for him to retire. He's not having to do any testing he hasn't done before.

Regarding him retiring, it's possible I guess, but I doubt it.

 

Exactly, I do think that Pac takes PED ( and so do Floyd for that matters ), but considering he passed the required tests for all these years, I don't see how it proves he takes PED if he retires. He can just claims that Floyd makes silly demand because he's afraid of him and continue his career the same way

 

.....or it reminds me of a guy just quitting while he is ahead.

 

Pac is running away from the blood tests...his legacy has an asterisk beside it because of this.

 

what a cheat

 

POSTURING from Pac's Camp...They're Probably Hoping to ADD Sales to the Clottey PPV by Suggesting this COULD B Pac's Last Fight...

It WON'T B...



REED:hammert:

 

Why ESPN even print this shit is beyond me.

 

yup

 

A boxer claiming he will retire soon. Real shocking and unusual.

 

There's an article on Fighthype claiming Roach and Pacquiao are hoping Mosley wins because he's easier to negotiate with. :dunno:

 

Reason why Mayweather put in a REMATCH clause in the Mosley fight contract.

That's why I'm hoping if Mosley wins it's by devastation. Then Mayweather will think twice about being knocked out again. Opts out of the rematch releasing Mosley to fight the winner of Pacquaio-Clottey.

 

That's why I want Mosely to lose this one, unfortunately.

 

I posted this a few days back in another thread:

I think we're getting there, now. Or at the very least the pressure to do the Mayweather thing is eclipsing his career and making it hard to keep going as he is going, and acting like nothing is wrong.

I am sorry, but retiring without facing Floyd while Floyd still actively fights at a high level is totally insane, unless you simply can't risk the testing. Please, people. What does Roach mean Mosley is easier to negotiate with? Name one thing Floyd did to make negotiating difficult OTHER than the testing thing? Even Pac fans in this forum argued that Floyd was TOO compliant in the negotiations and demanded TOO little on purpose, just to make Pac look bad if he didn't accept the testing.

So what the fuck? How can you possibly read this as anything else but Roach saying "We don't want to take the tests."? If Manny is really considering retiring, and he is clean of PEDs - why the hell not take your final fight with Floyd, take the tests, and then go off into the sunset NEVER to have to take the feared blood tests again? It's not worth a sacrifice of about 10 cumulative minutes of your whole fucking life to have blood drawn maybe 4 times in 6 weeks? My grandma is 83 years old and she gets blood tests more often than that. Eighty - THREE! She can't get up out of a chair anymore without help.

Roach does not have Parkinson's only, he has "shit floweth from my constantly open mouth" disease as well. Shut up and take the May fight, then win and disparage the shit out of PBF as Manny retires an ATG.

 

To play Devil's Advocate, Mayweather will demand more money than Mosley. Mosley was stubborn before (DLH 3 negotiations) but at this point he won't have too much of a problem taking the "short" end of the stick as he'll still get a huge payday.

But yeah, Mosley won't demand extra drug testing. Maybe then, he'll use again too.

 

Usually when a person makes their case, has listened to the other side and is CONFORTABLE and statisfied with their argument, they can relax. It all has been said before.

On the other hand, if they are haunted by an inevitable question, somehow they reason outloud why they think they continue to be on the right side of the discussion. Deep inside they question themselves over and over and can't come to grips with the question: WHY NOW?









And the answer ultimately leads to the best p4p FIGHTER in the world fighting THIS weekend in front of 50,000 fans: Manny PACQUAIO.

 

The fight with PBF will NEVER happen as long as PBF has his "0".
Now in addition to asking for the tests, he will also ask for the greater share of the purse which will further facillitate the fight not happening.

 

ive seen this fella outlander criticize mayweather jr plenty of times prior to 2010, same goes for that other weirdo kaukslurpr and several others who seem to realize pacquiao is at least partially at fault for the biggest fight in boxing not occuring. most of the chaps placing sole blame on mayweather jr are his staunch haters or known pacquiao dick riders.

 

Ah, Fighter. I will spare you the pain of trying to get through those big words in any more "Psychology for Dummies" books you have piled by your bedside as you desperately try to understand what is common sense to most. I will explain why I persist in what I say.

Here we go:
I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY PAC DOESN'T SIGN TO FIGHT FLOYD MAYWEATHER AND IT ANGERS ME. AS A BOXING FAN IT PISSES ME OFF TO NO END. I CANNOT FATHOM WHY SOMEONE LIKE PAC WOULD RATHER RETIRE THAN TAKE A SILLY FEW BLOOD TESTS WHICH WOULD FACILITATE THE BIGGEST FIGHT OF HIS CAREER.

This bothers me tremendously. I cannot remember a time in my life that something like this has happened in boxing, and I can't even think of a historcial scenario to compare it to. I suppose the closest thing would be a Tyson/Bowe or Tyson/Lewis matchup which never materialized during the fighters' primes. But those instances had NOTHING to do with one party refusing something as paltry as a few blood tests. I think Pac is just about the only guy out there who has a really good chance of beating PBF, and maybe even stopping him, and by God I want to see it!! Pac is robbing me of my destiny, my long-awaited satisfaction of seeing PBF laying belly up on the canvas!

How can you possibly be "confortable" making your brash statements like:

when you will never get to see PBF/Pac to find out who is really the best p4p of this era? How are you not angry or at least embarrassed that the "best" won't go through a few harmless formalities to make this fight? When has the "best" fighter in boxing EVER hid behind shit like this to avoid a fight of this magnitude? I look at Hagler/SRL and I see Hagler looking at a contract with specific dates, specific gloves, specific ring size, etc. and saying to himself "fuck it, fuck it, fuck it, where do I sign?" and I keep wondering what the difference is between THAT great and THIS supposed great in Manny Pac? Care to comment on that? Do yourself a favor and re-read what I bolded so it sinks in. Spend some time thinking about it and get back to me with your answer along with how as a boxing fan this doesn't bother you.

Thank you. I have spent many an hour ripping the shit out of that coward Floyd Mayweather. Kauki has been even harsher. I have always been a Pac fan to some degree, and have always been disgusted by PBF's antics. So it truly pains me to see how this unfolds, watching the formerly fearless shark of a man Manny Pac run like a fucking dog with its tail between its legs because one fight in his whole damn life he has to get properly tested for PEDs. One fucking fight. Get the duct tape, my head is going to explode.

If Pac does come to the table to fight PBF and it turns out that Floyd really does start asking for more money and other such crap, then my view changes and I rip Floyd again. But as it stands now, Mosley has been historically harder to negotiate with or at least AS hard to negotiate with as PBF, and when it comes to PBF/Pac, Floyd just rolled over for prima donna Pac with the exception of the testing. So I reject the argument that there is any merit to Roach's latest bout of verbal diarrhea.

I like you Fighter, you are a straight shooter and a polite & respectful guy in the forums. Always stick to the subject and stay away from personal attacks. So how does it not bother you that Pac is holding up the fight of the decade for no good reason? Please don't cite any of the old, shopworn arguments about Pac's fear of needles, fear of blood, superstitions about the moon, and his phobias of dust mites.

How can you possibly justify your proclaimed "p4p best" sabotaging this fight by refusing to have a few milliliters of blood drawn? When, in any sport, can you remember the BEST... the aggressive, confident, powerhouse wrecking machine type of athlete Pac is... running from his biggest test, his career-defining match that cements his ATG legacy, and then even threatening to RETIRE at the age of 31 because of... a BLOOD TEST? Regale me with what other heroes you admire, Jack McCall and Barney Fife?

 

accomplishments-wise pacquiao certainly achieved more than any fighter in the last decade or so. if he retires after the clottey fight (whether he wins or loses), i still think he'll still hold that distinction over mayweather, but that wouldn't change my opinion on the fact that mayweather beats him at anyweight from 130 and above.

honestly, i'd much rather see this fight happen instead of listening to years later when folks talk about who would've won had this fight taken place.

and on top of that, pacquiao, to his and everyone's amazement, is at the peak of his game while it's mayweather who despite his unblemished record, is in decline.

i truly believe that historical place in boxing would be on the line when these two fighters meet. for pacquiao, it could be his claim to be the greatest of all time and for mayweather, it's a testament to his appraised and yet doubted invincibility.

 

Outlander,

WHY do you get angry at the one who refuses to clear the HURDLE but is fine with the one who CONCOCTED it?? WHY NOW?

Talking about psychology, who between Pacquaio and Mayweather, fights way more fan friendly and signs accordingly taking all commers? Who fights safety first and is constantly talking about how smart he is about taking no punishment against Bruselles, Corley, Mitchell, bloated Marquez, fans and LEGACY be damned? The answer to that question is why Pacman IS an all-time great. It is this FIGHTER who is willing to go forward with the fight according to CURRENT Commission standards.

It all boils down to having a PACE in the ring that is not confortable. A sense that he is going to be overwhelmed and overpowered so let me throw this HURDLE in there knowing that the last time he lost a fight, IN HIS MIND, was because of blood letting days prior to fight night.

I was disappointed as heck when the fight fell through but it is to be expected from a person who likes to piss off people as he does his opponents, then place a smaller HURDLE for himself to clear. That has been his pattern with the EXCEPTION of Sugar Shane, who he was FORCED to fight because of the Pacquaio fight falling through.

TRUTH is they both are somewhat to blame. If they both win their fights, they need to compromise and not sabotage the fight with HARDER demands.

 

Neither of them wanted the fight...not right now anyway.I feel the Olympic drug testing should be for boxing not for one fight,just my two cents.Is Floyd and his people still getting sued by Pacquiao? or did they drop the case?

 

Then again, what does it matter if Mosley would take a 30|70 split when a 50|50 split with Floyd would get Manny much much more money.