Anyone NOT picking Pac this weekend?

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by joony, Mar 11, 2010.

  1. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    pacquiao beating clottey seems like a foregone conclusion at this point.

    anyone giving clottey a shot?

    at best, i see clottey doing enough to lose a close controversial decision. the guy hardly ever dominates against top opposition and it would be no different this saturday.

    i'd have to say, i'd be overwhelmingly surprised if clottey somehow manages to win this.
     
  2. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Clottey always finds a way to lose. Hard to give him a chance.
     
  3. bigdawg

    bigdawg Undisputed Champion

    Hell naw I ain't giving Clottey a chance in hell to win the fight. He is there to only get a payday. Arum got way too much money invested in a Pac/PBF/Shane fight. If Manny loses there goes all that bread. Clottey knows this as well. I'll Holla 5000
     
  4. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Clottey Seems VERY Happy JUST to B in the Midst of this Type of Spectacle...HOPEFULLY, he'll STILL Fight as Hard as he Customarily Does, but U have to @ Least WONDER if he Will...

    But even if Clottey DOES Fight to his Potential, he AIN'T Winning...Like Teddy Atlas was Saying, 1 Guy is QUICKER, Throws MORE Punches & Hits HARDER...The Other Guy CATCHES More than he Pitches...

    EASY Fight to Predict...

    The ONLY Mystery is HOW Pac will Break Thru Clottey's Guard...It would SEEM that More BODYPUNCHING would B the Recipe, but Pac's NEVER Shown a Round by Round COMMITTMENT to Body Punching...
    REED:hammert:
     
  5. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I think Clottey will give him problems early on and then fade or choke like he often does and drop a decision.
     
  6. Pascals Wager

    Pascals Wager Undisputed Champion

    Tough fight for Pac.
    Clottey is big, strong, has a tight defense & will not fold early.
    I would be more surprised to see SSM beat PBF
     
  7. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Clottey's TALLER than Pac, but he HASN'T Been Significantly BIGGER than Manny, During Fight Week...Pac has the LARGER Hands Too, for what it's Worth...

    Granted, the FIGHTNIGHT Weight will B Most Important



    REED:hammert:
     
  8. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    i agree that pac will win, but i'm still curious to see how he'll manage to break through clottey's guard.

    clottey's like an inconsistent version of quartey w/ a better chin. if he can consistently land his jab and his well timed right hands, then he should be competitive.

    one thing that pac fans should be concerned about is clottey's size. he can easily compete at 154 and has in the past. he doesnt have much of a KO power, but its winky'esque. he'll hit hard enough to discourage.
     
  9. TysonFan4Ever

    TysonFan4Ever Leap-Amateur

    Right here baby...Clottey KO 2 Pacquiao
     
  10. Ron King 702

    Ron King 702 Undisputed Champion

    Clottey KO1 Pacquiao
     
  11. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    Pacquiao will WIN...but he will look human for the first time since moving to 140-47...
     
  12. Pascals Wager

    Pascals Wager Undisputed Champion

    I'm suspecting that in the ring Clottey will look bigger. I also suspect that he's stronger.
    I hope Manny's sparring has been good...We'll see
     
  13. LATIN KING

    LATIN KING Undisputed Champion

    I think the fight will be as easy or as hard as Pacquiao wants it to be.

    I think he can outbox clottey all night just by jumping in landing shots and jumping out all day.

    But he likes to trade and test his own chin against these bigger 147 guys. I think he will try to KO Clottey at some point in the fight but I'm not sure he can do it.

    Clottey himself has to pick up the pace otherwise Pacquiao will dominate even on the scorecards.

    I think Clottey's chances to win are only by KO and I don't see that happening unless Pacquiao gets careless.
     
  14. Fighter

    Fighter Undisputed Champion

    Clottey was on the verge of stopping Baldomir, TKO'ed Judah, Pacquaio says Clottey beat Cotto and lost close decision to Margarito with injured hands, saying nothing about Margarito's hands.

    This guy is a strong contender in the welterweight division. Nobody has an easy fight with Clottey. If he pins Pacquaio to the ropes, he can do alot of damage to slow down Pacquaio for the later rounds.

    I've read somewhere Clottey is planning coming in at 155 fight night not to give too much on the speed area, while foregoing some size.

    I'd be SHOCKED if Pacquaio stopped Clottey.
     
  15. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I hope Clottey uses the green light to use drugs in this fight curteousy of a deal done between Arum and the Texas commision, and comes in absolutely jacked with chemicals,..and beats the fuck out of him,.. pulling the rug out from beneath everybody would be awesome.
     
  16. Matchup_Analyzer

    Matchup_Analyzer Keyboard Warrior

    Nobody was talking any of this drug stuff prior to Mayweather. The only proven abuser here is the Xylocaine user. And when it comes down to it Manny Pac is fighting March 13th and without the obstacle course.
     
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2010
  17. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    :crafty: ,......Well, I'd be hoping and praying for Mosely to win, because the nightmare is due to continue if he doesn't,.. the spotlight will again become so intense it ought to make alot of posters fry and squirm for a second round, to the extent that I think Pacquiao will have to retire promptly, or be quickly set up against a pay gagged victim who's just greatful for the oppurtunity. I wouldn't be suprised if about 5 minutes after Fraud is awarded a decision, do HBO announce that Arum has reached a deal for Pacquiao's next fight.
     
  18. Matchup_Analyzer

    Matchup_Analyzer Keyboard Warrior

    Negotiations will never be fast and easy between Fraud and Pedquiao. One guy effectively dragged NSAC and Boxing thru the gutter with the allegations, the other is being doubted for not going through with the obstacle course. Nobody is going to accept any less than these 2 fighting next should they win their upcoming matches.
     
  19. salaco

    salaco Undisputed Champion

    I hope Clottey doesn't decide that not-being-knocked out ("no, he never hurt me") while not committing enough to output constitutes a moral victory. I can imagine him throwing low double digits punches per round while keeping a high guard, allowing Pac to push the action, and then complaining at the end of a decision loss that he landed all the effective punches.
     
  20. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I pick Clottey by clear decision just to appear clever if it happens
     
  21. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Yes they were. Rumours were already rife, lets not rewrite history.
     
  22. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    :bears:
     
  23. Outlander

    Outlander Leap-Amateur

    I think Pac wins, it's hard to say otherwise.

    I think the key for Clottey is... how does he fare as the fight drags on? It may be hard for him to get his head around where he stands with respect to Pac given Pac's demolition of other good welterweights and excellent fighters.

    If Clottey finds he is still around & not badly hurt halfway through the fight, then I believe his chances of taking rounds and getting into some sort of groove are very good. He is rugged, has good defense, and is a reasonable puncher when he is active (which is too little).

    Unfortunately, all this adds up to Pac getting a decision even if Clottey has a good fight, since Clottey will get outworked even if he does some damage. He would have to get uncharacteristically aggressive to change that, and if you look at the Cotto fight you can see that even when the fight is his for the taking he doesn't get aggressive.
     
  24. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Anything can happen so Clottey beating Pacman shouldn't come as a huge shock for anyone. But I don't see it happening. Would be nice


    :pray:
     
  25. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Yeah, well i pick Clottey more than you.

    I'll be even cleverer.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    No they weren't. They only became "rife" after that retard Floyd Sr started blabbing.
     
  27. bpg

    bpg Leap-Amateur

    I expect this to be a tough fight for Pac, but I thought Hatton and Cotto would be too.

    Pacquiao KO 2
     
  28. salaco

    salaco Undisputed Champion

    Clottey is too committed to self-preservation to be KO'ed early I'd say
     
  29. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

    you know Clottey.. he is the kinda fighter I hate

    he ALWAYS does just enough to lose.. or I should say "does not enough to win"

    he is one that I'l lbe watching going "THROW MORE PUNCHES"

    it's like he ALWAYS when doing good and is in a fight.. just does not step it up enough! :doh:

    he is durable and strong but I think that is going to highlight pac.. Pac will swarm and just bust him up and stop him in 7 I think
     
  30. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Agreed, and from what we've heard so far that Pacquiao is going to be working on breaking Clottey down. He's not going to try to blitz the bigger guy.
     

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