HGH is a helluva drug!

and so is EPO. Come on people. No one gets that much faster, stronger, and so explosive with unending stamina like that in his thirties. How long have we all been watching this damn sport? on top of that his head grows and he refuses the biggest money fight in history due to blood tests. Why are we as boxing fans putting up with this sham!?!

 

it certainly

doesn't look good for the pedman

 

Yeah...did you see him stuttering like a retard when Kellerman asked him about fighting Mayweather?

 

If you don't think that both Pac or PBF are on some type of PED, than you are very very naive imo.

 

exactly. people who are as clueless as barristan honestly need to shut the fuck up.

you know nothing about epo or ped, why act like you do? as simple as that.

 

....says the 14 year old with a pimple on his nose

 

says the 21 yr old athlete who has trained with several professional boxers and mixed martial artists and unlike you has a clue.

a high majority of professional boxers use steroids. that is a fact. pacquiao has not had his recent success due to steroids although it is likely he uses them.

 

This entire site is a joke.

 

Correct. People really would be better to lose their childish trust in honesty when it is about sports and especially boxing. Then again, some people want to think WWE is real

 

Nobody moves up in weight and actually improves his speed/stamina/power that easily without potent chemicals. I can accept some cases of a fighter being weight-drained and moving up a weightclass and performing better because of the added weight. But what Pacquiao has been doing is not natural.

 

roy jones, chris byrd, erik morales, wilfredo gomez, roy jones jr, james toney, thomas hearns, bernard hopkins, arthur abraham, lennox lewis, both klistchko's, evander holyfield, glen johnson, floyd mayweather, tomasz adamek, tito trinidad, sugar shane mosely, manny pacquiao, aaron pryor, john ruiz, sugar ray leonard

why is pacquiao being singled out is my question?

 

exactly...all you have to do is use common sense. We've all been watching boxing for years. Its as plain as day this guy is cheating something fierce!

 

Yep, and not only that,.. he's being accomodated to cheat by the commissions, Bob Arum has this newfound love for Texas,.. why wouldn't he?.. "No good cause for any drug testing" .. ahh, doesn't that suit the plot?....how extraordinary.

 

fixed

 

hahaha i read these posts and i didnt realize you were "trolling"

my bad!

btw diego corrales = god.

 

Because he's currently the best boxer on the planet.

 

Yep, it's like considering the gold medal winner the least priority for drug testing. Pacquiao and Mayweather, means testing 1 & 2 in boxing,.. there is no better place to begin.

 

I agree.

 

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What do you reckon about Trevor Graham being appointed as Manny's specialist speed and conditioning coach Erratic?.. I reckon that was a real good move, if your Pacquiao..:crafty:

 

cos floyd'll take the test and pacman won't. ok pacman might just be one among a whole sport of drug-abusers ('PED-erasts'?), but it seems floyd isn't, or at least is willing to be off it for one fight, and that's one thing that floyd has over pacman. who's the best fighter in the world? well it seems that floyd clean is better than pacman clean (at least, pacman thinks so).

 

Good bowl Roost.

 

if you watch closely, manny's head actually swells during rounds. when he goes into those flurries his skull enlarges just slightly, the peds kicking in. it's slow and just about a 5%-10% growth but it's clearly perceptible. between rounds it slowly shrinks back to normal size when he's on his stool.

 

it's good to know this though, and it is important like you say. if the majority of top boxers are cheats then pedquiao's legacy shouldn't be any more besmirched than most other p4pers'. but it's one thing that floyd, at least, has over him.

 

Yes but it is easy to give a clean sample when you know where the test will be and what kind of test they take, and if you have medical experts in your team. During his retirement Floyd may have trained with all poisons out there since he was never tested. i wonder if Mayweather would have let himself be tested last night for example, now that he is in training.

Surprise tests are the only way to actually catch somebody and they never do them in the States.

 

floyd'll agree to the surprise testing too, though.

 

That's what I thought 'Random' meant...

 

Ah, ok. Then it could mean that he is indeed ready to train clean this time or that he has some new supplement that can not be tested yet.

I am not trying to blame people without a reason. It is just that, like one doping expert recently said, Marion Jones was tested hundreds of times in her career and she was never caught, yet later she has admitted using everything, EPO, steroids and growth hormones, during her whole career. And this in a sport where the athletes are tested many times a year. This doping expert said that for this reason it would be best to allow doping, and I do agree

 

What nobody ever brings up with Manny is the fact that not only has he moved up 41 pounds in weight during his career, 25 pounds of those I´d say are significant as the move from 122 to 147 was made as a matured adult, BUT that he has been a pro for 15 years and has had 56 fights. Show me one guy in the last 20 years that has had that many fights and years at the elite level, especially at the lower weights and only gets better, he doesn´t level off, he doesn´t decline, he gets BETTER.

 

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