HGH Some interesting facts

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Pascals Wager, Mar 14, 2010.

  1. Pascals Wager

    Pascals Wager Undisputed Champion

    Thought you might find this interesting:

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/growth-hormone/HA00030

    What can human growth hormone do for otherwise healthy adults?
    Studies of healthy adults taking human growth hormone are limited. Although it appears that human growth hormone injections can increase muscle mass and reduce the amount of body fat in healthy older adults, the increase in muscle doesn't translate into increased strength. In fact, researchers have found that strength training is a cheaper, more effective way to increase muscle mass and strength.
    It isn't clear if human growth hormone may provide other benefits to healthy adults.

    What are the risks of taking human growth hormone if you don't need it?
    Human growth hormone may cause a number of side effects for healthy adults, including:
    • Swelling in the arms and legs
    • Joint pain
    • Muscle pain
    • For men, enlargement of breast tissue (gynecomastia)


    Don't know whether I'd be looking towards it for an unfair advantage...
     
  2. winner by choke

    winner by choke Undisputed Champion

    but barristan and roger mayweather (two people who know next to nothing about PEDs) said so. bulletproof meth too!
     
  3. Pascals Wager

    Pascals Wager Undisputed Champion

    All I'm reading lately is unsupported assertions about big heads & eyebrows.
    I am sure that in a few years this little phase that we're going through is going to be laughed at:
    "..remember when all those guys kept carrying on about Manny's HEAD SIZE & his EYEBROWS as some sort of evidence he was on drugs..."
     
  4. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Here's an example of why I'm suspicious about HGH useage by Pacquiao,.with the difference in the cheek and brow,.. I also find the amount of extra hair that his eyebrows have since sprouted pretty amazing.. both evident symptoms of HGH use.
     
  5. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

    Eyebrow hair? Really? Most guys' eyebrows get more unruly ad they get older. Glad you've graduated to using photographic evidence though.
     
  6. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Extra and sudden hair growth is a side effect of HGH,.. now if you want to latch on to that,.. why not examine the brow, the cheek and the nose,.. any comments?.. or am I just blind?
     
  7. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

    Latch onto? If HGH triggered hair growth then bald men evrywhere would stampede to the local gym to get it.

    I am currently viewing the forum from my iPhone so I'll get back to you about the pics once I've seen them on a proper monitor.
     
  8. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    You're right, HGH IS being used as a treatment to regrow hair.
     
  9. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

    Really? That lends credence to the theory.

    VERY quick google search shows most of the results are being peddled by HGH sellers. I will look into this more another time as it is getting late but Id be interested in a link to a reputable study on HGH rather than a site selling the latest snake oil.
     
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  10. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Yeah i dont see a difference in his head or eyebrows.

    Eyebrows looks exactly the same and in one pic he needs a hair cut. If you cut his hair the same way as in the first picture, shave the goatee, tell him to stop smiling and pull he camera back, you would have the exact same size.
     
  11. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    Well, here is a 'fact sheet'.. that doesn't appear to be selling the shit.

    http://www.ehow.com/facts_5892135_hgh-hair-regrowth.html
     
  12. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    It doesn't matter if one picture is larger than the other,.. you can still look at the features in proportion to everything else,..I know the angles of those shots are not in precisely the same pose, but they're pretty close, close enough to make a proportionate comparison.
     
  13. r o o s t e r

    r o o s t e r "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    well i dunno about manny but it seems like marquez went through some crazy changes too between their fights. gained about five inches in height, not to mention the skin pigmentation...
     
  14. who?

    who? Undisputed Champion


    Yeah but at least marquez openly drinks chemical waste
     
  15. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I'm concerntrating on the facial features roost,..the larger, higher brow, and the thickness of the hair of his eyebrows, all this changing in the span of 3 years, HGH use has also been linked to producing thicker skin,..and I'm not really convinced that this evidence is all because his face has 'filled out' more..there's a 'swarthier, leathery' aspect about the new Pedquiao :crafty:.
     
  16. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

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    Pac's people do appear to keep mentioning about how much they need to keep feeding him...there is something forced about the whole scene where he is having food heaped on his plate and protein shakes force-fed to him.

    His skin does look leathery.

    But also...he looks paler and younger.

    None of this proves anything...and besides, since when did HGH make you a killer in the ring?
     
  17. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    "But also...he looks paler and younger"

    Interesting you say that,....HGH is used as an anti-aging drug,.. 'the fountain of youth'..

    But that's not to say he's ONLY on HGH alone,..
     
  18. r o o s t e r

    r o o s t e r "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    definitely leathery.
     
  19. r o o s t e r

    r o o s t e r "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    it's a good, pertinent point
     
  20. IMDAZED

    IMDAZED Undisputed Champion

    Given Freddie Roach's own words and based on his change in physique, Pacquiao probably has or uses HGH. But a lot of boxers have. I think what Mayweather is more concerned with - and also why he contacted Victor Conte - is that Pac is blood doping. 1200+ punches last night. Insane.
     
  21. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    It's natural, when you get older and add extra weight, it usually means less fatigue, higher work rate, and faster handspeed doesn't it?..
     
  22. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Vitali threw 1000 vs Kevin Johnson. Maybe we need to check the follicles of the Big V too.:dunno:
     
  23. pso

    pso Scrub

    Logic doesn't apply on Fightbeat. Heavyweights can throw 1000 but welterweights can't do 1200+.

    So please, stop making sense.
     
  24. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    :crafty: Youuuuuuuu,....joining in with the spirit I see,..well, you more than anyone deserves the honour, that's for sure.

    What's worse is that I'm not a sound speller either, it makes it look aaaallll da mor' stoopid... :doh:

    But, the stance still stands,.. bones of a triceratops, pelt of a mammoth.
     
  25. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Ah yes, but as Brother Reed will tell you, the Klitschko's "ooze" and "sweat" Steroids.....and who am I to argue, in the face of such withering, overwhelming proof....
     
  26. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    then y'all white racist groupies would be sayin',.. "His brow, has not grown,.. it's just a larger pic, taken at a different angle,..AND his follicles have not thickenned."
     
  27. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Interesting....

    But OBVIOUSLY, Vitali has NO HISTORY of PED Use Whatsoever, Right???...


    REED:dunno:
     
  28. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Ah!...So there's NEVER EVER Been "Proof" Connecting EITHER Klit Brother to Steroids????...Damn, REED's Bad...


    REED:popcorn:
     
  29. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

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    "Ahhhhhh yes....from here.....I can see his thickened skin...and extra hair....."
     
  30. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful


    Well.......his hairline is receeding and what is left is turning gray....so...he cannot be Pedding, using the Kauki-Reed test for Ped's...

    Of course.....we don't know what Floyd got up to when he was "retired"....no testing during retirement, of course..........but we're talking the Big V, right? Right.
     

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