WHY PACQUIAO-FLOYD WILL NEVER HAPPEN

People keep saying this fight will happen because it's too much money to be left on the table. However they're forgetting one thing: the parties already left the money on the table. There's a few big factors that will prevent this fight from happening, let's explore them:

FLOYD - IMO Floyd is scared to fight Manny. Whether that is accurate or not is huge. Floyd's stance on the blood testing could either be his way out of the fight or he really believes it. Either way he won't back off that stance now, his pride is too big and yes it is 40 million dollars big.

PACQUIAO - I'm split on whether Manny is on PED's or not. However one thing is for certain and that is that team Pacquiao is no more willing to drop their stance on the testing procedures than is team Mayweather.

ARUM - His hatred for Floyd is so huge he would also walk away from his cut of the 40 mil. You can already see he's doing more to negotiate around PBF than attempting to make that fight. On the other hand can you really blame him?


People say Manny walked away from 40 mil by refusing a test. Well the flip side of that is Floyd walked away from 40 mil by refusing to drop his extra testing demands. So really both parties are at fault here and both parties won't bend. There's too much star power and too much ego on the line and that is why this fight won't happen, because both sides are too proud to give in.

 

Personally I think Manny is the one who should just accept the testing. Why not do it? Look at Mosley, he was busted for using steriods and has been constantly villified for it. When Floyd came with those testing demands Mosley was actually ecstatic about it because he now gets to prove that he isn't fighting dirty. With Manny it would be the same thing. He's supposedly pissed at how Floyd has smeared his good name yet instead of proving himself they instead claim they won't let Floyd dictate to them. Yet they dictated to Floyd about coming in over weight, so when Floyd turned around and made testing demands now all of a sudden he's the one dictating? Maybe if team Pacquiao drops that 10lb weight limit stance than Floyd will drop his testing stance. After all Manny allowed Clottey to come in at over 160+ lbs and he's way more dangerous at a higher weight than Floyd would be due to less mobility and less punching power.

 

Interesting theories.
In my honest opinion the fight is bound to happen as long as Mayweather gets by Mosley.
Even if the fight is close I see Mayweather getting the benefit of the doubt from close rounds since HBO/MGM Grand Etc. would benefit more if he won rather than Shane.

So unless Shane knocks him out it's bound to happen.

I believe with the interim fights with Clottey/Shane New Negotiations will be drawn up which will be unrelated to this failed attempt.

Now Mayweather camp will either ask for more from the pie or succumb to less depending on his outing against Mosley.

 

I can't see Manny-PBF happenning.

• Neither will cave on the drug issue.
• PBF will demand the lions share of the purse.
• Manny has just looked unbeatable again.

PBF does seem in a sense, intimidated by Manny.
He looks at him and simply can't comprehend somebody being that good.
I think that includes himself.

 

According to the Nevada Commission Pacquaio made close to $50 million for his fights with Diaz, De laHoya, Hatton, Cotto and Clottey. That's like being a billionaire in his native country. MONEY is not an issue.

If Floyd wins by a narrow margin it will be Pacquaio-Mosley with Floyd OUT of the equation. If Mosley wins by devastation(5% chance, I know) then it will be Pacquaio-Mosley, with Mayweather stepping aside, OUT of the equation.

 

this fight won't happen. no way no how.

 

Much better Lib four Lib, much better,.. but really, I don't understand why people accuse one or the other of 'really not wanting the fight' ..?,..they both had several go's at it,.. even hired a mediator,..

 

He didn't walk away from $40MM !!! He walked away from $40MM - $what he made against Clottey.

Also, it's entirely possible Arum made more money from the Clottey fight than he would've a Mayweather fight. So let's not read too deeply into his stance.

 

Mosely fessed up to using steriods. He is guilty by his own admission. Doing the drug testing is definitely a way to clean up his reputation.

PAC has never been caught with anything. The only evidence is RUMORED and baseless accusations or coincedences. So in reality there is absolutely no need for him to agree to it. Fled has his escape route planned for this fight and PAC has chalked his response up to his ego. PAC doesn't need PBF he is a becoming a bigger star and definitely a more exciting fighter than PBF all the time. Whether it is 100% Manny saying no or his team is questionable, but someone is telling PBF f@ck you on the extra testing.

It would be a great thing for PAC to just say "WTF I'll do it". But like LB4LB alluded to there's no telling if its just him making the decision to not do the testing.

It would be just as great to have Floyd drop the extra testing demands however he won't. IMO Floyd doesn't feel like he can fight Manny at the lower weight and probably feels he will be weakened. He wants the weight advantage and that weight advantage will cost him dearly according to contract. Floyd is doubting his capabilities. His people around him are doubting him. Floyd will not fight Manny.

 

I agree that it may never happen...but if it doesn't it has nothing to do with Floyd's fear as is the popular misconception.

Floyd has never been scared to fight anyone. A scared fighter wouldn't move up to 154lbs and fight De la hoya or fight undefeated hatton or fight undefeated Corrales or fight Castillo in his first fight at lightweight.

no Floyd isn't scared.

however

The fight may not happen because Floyd has made his stance regarding drug testing and he has to stick with it. Pacquiao made his own stance on that matter and may feel oblidge to stick to that.

That's the problem.

 

Bob Arum is the only one who doesn't want this fight

 

I agree. Though I think Roach also has reservations. And I think Floyd is simply ambivalent as he has been through the whole second half of his career.

 

agREED...

But it's More FASHIONABLE to Say Floyd's "Scared" These Days, Since Everybody & their Mother is Swinging from PAC's SAC....


REED:mj:

 

The truth is, Floyd needs this fight more than Pac right now. Pac showed that he can sell out a football stadium fighting a little-known opponent. Floyd needs Mosley to sell out Mandalay Bay. Just imagine how many people would have showed up for Floyd-Clottey

therefore, Manny is the one in command. Floyd does not like that, he feels he should get the bigger purse. That's why the fight is not happening.

I don't think either guy fears each other

 

If Manny says his next fight will be his last, then it will be PBF to make the most $$$. Otherwise, Arum will exhaust his stable of fighters against Manny before fighting PBF.

 

I agree I don't think it will happen. PBF does not want to risk the "0" from his record.

 

Wrong, it has been FASHIONABLE to say Manny's on PEDS, HGH etc without a bit of proof. Hell even Teddy Atlas threw the guy under the tracks with NO PROOF WHATSOEVER. NOTHING. JUST A REFUSAL. Lets see how the negotiations go from here but just wait and see Floyds not giving a inch and his demands WILL become more ridiculous.

 

"NO PROOF WHATSOEVER"????...

R U Referring to Manny HIMSELF Saying that he was "Afraid of Needles", Only to have SEVERAL Pics & Filmed Instances of him Getting TATS Revealed???...R U Referring to Freddie Roach Saying HIMSELF that Manny would COMPLY w/Random Testing, Only to End Up BACKTRACKING???....

To Sit here & Act as if there's Absolutely NO REASON to @ Least SUSPECT Manny Pac of Juicing is NATHAN More than Pure, Unadulterated NUTHUGGERY...IS Manny Pac Juicing???...REED is UNsure...But there's CERTAINLY Enough REASONABLE DOUBT Out There to Make U Wonder, if NATHAN Else...

As for Teddy Atlas, his Concern was DOCUMENTED by a Noted Boxing Writer PRIOR to Teddy Voicing it...YOUR Stance on this Matter is BLIND, Dude...



REED:mj:

 

Yes I agree, my stance has kind of changed when it comes to Manny. Not that I think refusing the test is a sign of guilt, it's just team Pacquiao hasn't come up with one valid excuse to turn down the test. Not one. So yes it is very suspicious. As for Teddy Atlas, let's not make him out to be a Saint. The guy is an egotistical blowhard and has a tendency to speak negatively about people he's jealous of. He was criticized a bit for repeating on air those accusations when they were in fact, pretty baseless.

 

Because Mosely is going to knock mayweather out.

 

:bears::bears: I agree.

I was actually going to put Mosley's name at the top with the other reasons but decided against it.

 

Sorry man thats third person NOONE can confirm 100% MANNY SAID that. That come from Manny's CAMP or ROACH. Again noone outside Manny's camp knows 100% who the holdup or glitch is. Honestly do you want to base your whole argument on this statement...Is that really the most proof you have?

Flipside to say 100% Manny is Juicing is 100% NUTTHUGGERY. SHOW ME SOME TANGIBLE/visible PROOF! I DON'T care what Teddy thinks (its not like he hasn't been wrong before), Mayweathers think (as though), I don't care that some think he's starting to look like the elephant boy (which he isn't IMO). Whats really his biggest tell-tale sign for you REED?


Regardless of what you and I think without any REAL evidence this incident won't even make a aterisk on his record in the hall of fame. So noone will care what Teddy thought.

My stance is that until you show me PROOF the guy is drugging IMO he's not. I don't throw baseless accusations around. Wow what he's doing is unprecedented and he has great stamina ... "that f@cker is juicing!"

 

There's a video on youtube taking a blood-test and he's as calm as a coffee on a sunday morning, unlike fucking the neighbour on the ride-on lawn mower.

 

part of me thinks they will go back and negotiate a seconde time because assuming Floyd beats Mosley there isn' another big name for either guy like each other left.

Besides they already negotiated on the how many days for the last blood test before the fight.

Some people are still acting like Pacquiao's team won't even consider the blood test whey they already have.

It's just coming up with the amount of days before the fight.

I also think that part of the reason they negotiations fell the first time is that neither camp really wanted to make the fight for March 13, the moment they announced the negotiations I felt they were rushing it because of Pacquiao's Political race in May.

I still think it will happen and all the back and forth bullshit will only make it bigger at the end of the year.

 

Pacquiao keeps talking about retiring but he'll be back shortly if he does. As soon as all those leeches he keeps around him suck him dry, he'll be back.

 

This is called suspicion, not proof. Of course it is very likely that Pac is on roids but either you go by evidence or you don't, you can't have it both ways. So if you want evidence (as you have before, innocent until proven guilty remember) then Pacquiao is as clean as anybody. If you go with suspicions, then you have to accept it that anybody suspects anybody

 

Suspect? THere is alot people on this forum saying HE IS USING ILLEGAL DRUGS

 

I agree.I heard he has over a hundred of them.

 

I hope the Nevada comission is smart enough to incorporate random blood testing. It's good for boxing in sooooooooo many ways, starting that it will end Pacquiao's team lame excuse and force them to take the Mayweather fight. Which will be one of the greatest, most significant fights ever.

 

Quoted for truth.