Other Coach-Roach Fighters Who Have Displayed PED-esque Traits?

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  1. Irish

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    Bernard Hopkins...........skinny at 158lbs who was in deep with people like Robert Allen, Antwun Echols, Keith Holmes, ...all of a sudden displays the Elixir of Youth....59 years of age, no fat, winning titles at 175 and man-handling younger men, turning in far more spectacular performances than ever against Pavlik, Tarver and doing quite well vs Calzaghe.

    Shane Mosley.....ah yes, the plot thickens. Mosley is currently in deep with Hopkins aficionado, Nazim Richardson. But back in the day, Mosley was a Wild Card regular.....and he was there when he was doing that Balco thing

    James Toney...failed a steroid test after Ruiz bout.

    Not to mention Pacquiao himself, the alleged {and as of yet, unproven} king of the pedders.

    So....what gives? Did Shaky Freddy meet somebody down at the Mayo Clinic who suggested something that helps with neurological issues??? Recovery and regeneration??

    I am not saying everyone associated with Roach is guilty of something...but....is Wild Card the epicenter of some mischief and wrongdoing?
     
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    Hopkins was with Roach for a grand total of two fights - Wright and Calzaghe. He went 1-1 in those fights, and didn't look any different physique-wise than he has in any other fight before or after his time w/ Roach since moving up to LHW.

    I'm almost positive that Shane never trained with Roach.
     
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    No Shane never trained with Roach. he'd stop by Wildcard and spar with guys, but he's always done that (in other gyms) even when he didn't have fights scheduled.
     
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    Wow. This Manny Pac is on drugs thing is fast unravelling. Nice to hear from you Jake!
     
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    tyson trained w/ roach quite a bit. so did virgil hill. hill later tested positive for something but that was a decade or so later after the two split.
     
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    :doh: That's an iron clad case ya got there Irishman,... this tactic oughta clear him?... or should I say 'cycle it out of everybodies system'...

    If you talk about strength and conditioning coaches linked to scandals, what have you got to say about Mr Trevor Graham?.. Pacquiao's secret weapon, a critical man in the Balco scandal barred from any sport that submits itself to USADA drug testing?.
     
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    Im calling total bullshit on that one

    He kicked the crap out of Allen in both returns, the first one ended on a freak accident

    Outside of an after the bell KD, Echols managed nothing other than pissing Bernard off and fouling with him in both fights... Hopkins stopped him one handed in the return

    And KEITH HOLMES??? IN DEEP WITH KEITH HOLMES??? You can not be serious! He won every minute of every round with Holmes covering up like a scared little girl the whole time
     

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