Wladimir calls out David Haye

I had a horrible dream last night that Toney fought Vitali and got knocked out cold in the 9th. Was sad.:crying:

 

Wlad would make Haye fat?? Maybe from eating too many punches. ::

 

Haye Tells The Klitschkos To Fight Each Other, Eyes 50-50

By Mark Vester

WBA heavyweight champion David Haye is making a very unusual request to the Klitschko brothers. Younger brother Wladimir released a video on Monday, baiting Haye to accept his challenge. In response to the challenge, Haye is asking the two brothers to fight each other, or in the alternative for one brother to pass off his belts to the other. Haye wants to fight one brother with all of titles at stake. Wladimir has the IBF/WBO/IBO titles and Vitali is the WBC champion.

"I don't care if those two fight in the boxing ring or in the back yard at their mum's house but that is what they should do. They keep bleating about fighting me but if they are serious about unifying the world title there is a very quick way to get it done and dusted — box each other and then the winner takes me on," Haye told The Sun.

"If they don't want to upset any members of their family, then one brother should give the other his belts before stepping into the ring with me."

Manager Adam Booth will demand a 50-50 split on the fight. If the Klitschkos do not agree on 50-50, the fight won't happen with either brother.

"The Klitschkos have to get it inside their heads that the only spilt will be 50-50. If they think it will be anything else they are deluding themselves," Booth said.

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Another responce from the refreshing heavyweight saviour.

 

I want Haye to get battered. Who's this young cruiserweight upstart that would dare challenge the supremacy of the brothers' Klit?

 

He's well and truelly a heavyweight though,.. a fighter like Chambers, is actually a durable cruiserweight, but Haye genuinely outgrew cruiserweight, he weighs in 225lbs now, 225lbs deliciously and sexually ripped as it's been said by many heterosexual forum posters, more or less.

 

i agree, 50-50 is probably asking too much. Haye, at this point, needs a Klitschko, more than they need him.

However, 50-50, 40-60 whatever....it is by some way the biggest heavyweight fight out there. Haye nor the Klitschkos are going to make as much money fighting anyone else at the moment.

Haye's argument is that his vast, and growing fan-base warrants parity....but the Klitschkos do huge business too, and as you say, have the belts and global recognition to boot.

Haye certainly deserves a better offer than what he received last time, and if the Klitschkos come to the table with a 40-60 no-strings offer, i'm sure he'll take it. Beat a Klitschko, and then expect a 50-50 split to fight the other.

 

I defended Haye pulling out of the Vitali fight because of Setanta, which seems legit actually, if there was a chance Haye really wouldn't get any money.

Be that as it may, Haye is a bitch - it's clear he wants nothing to do with either Klitschko.

Asking them to fight each other and asking for 50/50? Sure Dave, that's realistic.

He clearly doesn't want to fight them, either of them.

 

It's not clear at all....Haye's genuine...he wants to test himself, he has done so throughout his professional career. People forget he's only had 25 fights. If Haye was all about taking the easy-route, quite simply he wouldn't be where he is after so few fights....as brits we know the hallmarks of a protected, padded record....they aren't present in David's resume.

I agree with you on the purse-split...but we all know how negotiations work...if Haye goes in and openly says he's willing to take 40%, they'll try their best to get him down to 30.

 

We'll see.

So in your opinion he is just playing hard to get? ::

To me, his response is not that of someone who has any real interest in fighting the Klitschkos.

Holy FUCK, I can't believe Haye has only had 25 fights. It seems like he's been around for years and years. The Thomson fight was fucking years ago, I guess it was only his 11th fight though. It's seriously funny that Chavez Jr has over 40 fights ::

 

Come on David, back your words up, do the business.

 

No, not hard to get.. he just doesn't want to appear so desperate that the Klitschkos try to expoit that in the negotiations. He brings more to the table than he did a year ago when he was prepared to make some compromises in order to jump the queue. He'll get a better offer for sure, i think the Klitschkos take him a lot more seriously now. The fight will happen.

 

I don't think he posts here

 

Fair enough. But I just think the "Let the Klitschkos fight each other" angle was a bit stupid, that made me think he wasn't interested in fighting them more than the 50/50 angle.

I just think if he really wanted to fight them he would have given them a bit more to work with than that, even if he was trying to not appear desperate. Just saying 50/50 would be enough.

We'll see though, I'd certainly like to see the fight even though I don't give him much of a chance against either of them.

 

I give Haye a good shot against either Klitchko. Especially Vitali who nowadays moves like the tin man from the wizard of oz.

I think Haye did what he should have done from the begining which was to fight Valuev for that tittle and then look for the Klitchkos. But all the talking he did made him look like a bitch.

I hope he backs up his words.

 

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yeah he's not being serious there, just a flippant remark to try and get a little bit further under their skins.

Nope, David doesn't post here, he did post at Eastside for a bit when he turned pro. He probably still checks out some forums.

 

I don't understand why so few people give Haye a shot against either Klitschko. Let's look at Wlad, who I think is the better matchup for Haye. I would say that the type of opponent who has the best chance against him would be someone with legit one-punch KO power, who can beat Wlad to the punch, has decent movement (gotta slip that jab at least), and finally who has a comparable reach and a good jab.

Well, Haye is lacking in reach by about 3 inches, and has what I would call a serviceable jab. Not a horrible mismatch there, but certainly favors Wlad by a wide margin. As for the rest - I believe Haye fits the bill. He has a great right hand, is faster than Wlad, and has good movement. He does not have what I would call great defense in terms of blocking punches.. but then again, that really doesn't work against the Klits anyway. He does a decent job of getting out of range fast, ducking, and moving, though.

Haye also showed that he can keep up a very good pace even while showing a lot of movement (as he did against Valuev), and he showed the ability to repeatedly get in range enough to hurt a very big man with that long right hand bomb he throws. If he keeps moving and shooting that right hand in with good angles, Haye could definitely tag Wlad hard.

In all likelihood, I think Wlad jabs Haye like crazy, keeps things at a safe distance, clinches a lot when Haye gets close, and slowly wears David down until he can drop some bombs in the mid-late rounds and do some real damage or end the fight. But I think Haye has a fair chance of hurting Wlad, and that is where the whole fight turns. HURT WLAD = PROBABLY WIN. FAIL TO HURT WLAD = DEFINITELY LOSE.

This is a fight I want to see. I've sat through some far, far less attractive Klit brothers fights over the last few years. For me the question is - does Haye believe his own hype? If he does not sign to fight Wlad next, then I will write him off due to him being just plain afraid to make the fight. Up until now he has made at least a modest case for canceling with Vitali and then fighting Valuev for a belt. But now it's go time, or go away time.

 

Haye likes to degrade each and every Wlad victory, he likes to point out that for 'some reason' his opponents all end up doing the same thing,.. Haye, who claimed Barrett's jab, felt like a cruiserweight right,..and who was clearly bothered and flustered by Ruiz's jab, is going to find out, why Wlad's opponents freeze up in a defensive shell.

You need more than a bit of power to beat Wlad,.. you need to rival his height, you need alot of stamina, and alot of durability, three things Haye severely lacks, so the way I see it,.. he's actually much, much less a 'hope' ... than Arreola, Povetkin, Helenius, Boystov, and Solis,.. He's in big trouble, Haye's handspeed is overrated, and Wlad's handspeed is underrated,.. I cannot see any real advantages Haye has what so ever,.. he's by far the inferior fighter and I would be suprised if it went 6 rounds.

 

This is what it would take for Haye to be competitive but I see it completely different from you. Haye did not keep up "very good pace" against Valuev, shit he threw like ten punches per round and hardly even won. Also he didn't get in range that often, since he was mostly backing away and he never hurt Valuev with his right hand which is his better punch, it was the left hook that briefly buckled Valuev. Also, it is very different to close the gap against Wlad and Valuev, as Wlad is as quick as Haye and has perhaps the best heavyweight jab ever.

Haye's bread and butter is to move back and throw a right hand counter over his opponents left but since Wlad's stays on backfoot too and only throws jabs when he feels the danger, he does not have many chances to land them. I have never been impressed by Haye's ability to close the gap attacking

 

:notallthere:

 

If you watch their combinations, Wlad does not lose to Haye by much, if at all. Haye's cross might be faster but Wlad is deceptively quick too.

And the jab thing is not clear cut, but Wlad definitely is up there among the best. He does not have the quickness and accuracy of Holmes, but his jab is damn accurate too and carries much more power

 

The key punch for Wlad is the left hook.

Haye likes to do a lazy-shoulder roll to get out of the way of the right hand, it's more of an upper-body twist than a roll, and it opens up his face to the left hook.

 

I got around to watching.. Haye - Ruiz,.. and from a short glossary description, it seemed great,.. Ruiz knocked down 5 times!, dominated!, battered! impressive!!!,...... but when seeing the actual full clip,.. backing up exhausted, and flustered, throwing 12 punches a round,.. I came away positive he's there to be taken by many other heavyweights not just the Klitschko's,.. I think Arreola for one, would absolutely steam-roll his arse,.. He only got skimmed by a few of Ruiz's slow jabs while Haye was ceaselessly backing away and yet he called it a 'gruelling fight' afterwards,..a good indication that he's easy to hurt,.. I am somewhat suprised Ruiz went down so many times,..the punches he was hit with didn't look that devistating but,.. I'll give Haye the benefit of the doubt that Ruiz still had something left and his power is a bit deceptive, still,.. this win doesn't prove he's the 3rd best heavyweight, you could only be convinced of that if he fought and beat some more of the others in the top 10.

 

that was a cool video

 

Haye's best chance is early on...i don't see Haye-Wlad being a distance fight....he'd look to do a Corrie Sanders

 

Haye doesn't have that South-African manhood thing going on though. South Africans, especially white ones, are raised to just not give a fuck. I mean, listen to their accents. You think they care what people think of them. Haye is going to go back to Terra'Firma when Wlad is finished Terra'Blanching him.

 

Wlad: "I say to my brother, 'I will take Haye now. It's my turn after he pulled out on you'' ,...

:: That was a good quote.

 

:bangh::bangh::bangh:

 

When I'm banned soon,.. you gots to carry the charms boy, gots to carry the charms,... :nono: I carried it for you when you died,.. until by way of miracle you were reserected,.. never stop the tradition,.. :nono: you are the ayr..