Brett Rogers addresses Alistairs "Horse Beef Diet"

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I dig Rogers. Guy seems like a really cool guy, down to earth. I am pulling for him to crush Overeem. I think he is going to keep getting better for a long time.

 

I think he's cool too. He kinda annoyed me before because of his cockiness, but He seems a little bit more humble since the Fedor fight.

 

Rogers is garbage. No charisma, no ground game, nothing. Just a big fat bastard with pretty good hands by MMA standards. He won't last long in MMA. Fedor was f*cking around a lot in that fight. He shoulda had Rogers gone in the first round if he wasn't so self conscious about his fragile left hand. What happened to the prime Fedor who used to smash hammer fists on his grounded opponents instead of trying to pull whacked-ass arm bars?
Fedor's hand problems have f*cked him up to the point where a lot of these fights are tougher than that need to be, unfortunately.
As for Rogers, he'll be done within a year.

 

I disagree, Hanzy. Rogers has progressed very nicely from his first fights. The guy is young, improves his skills everytime out, and Godfather is right, if he went to train with Fedor he could be great. The guy is a beast, definitely not a fat bastard as you say. His strength is real and his fists have power. His ground game is suspect, but he really only needs to learn defense from there. Takedown defense, pulling guard, etc.

 

I don't know. I just don't see it. I don't see anything special in this guy at all. His chin is fragile too.

 

I don't consider Rogers a top athlete. He's not the evolution of MMA. He has no ground game and it's gonna be the end for him pretty soon. He's just a flash in the pan. Another Tim Sylvia type.

 

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yeah I'm sure Fedor was just fuckign around when Rogers was on top of him pounding on his face. he was just "fucking around"

Fact is Rogers did much better than anyone in recent memory against Fedor. I guess that makes you a bum these days.

Oh wait, I forgot who I was dealing with. Everyoneis a bum to you.

 

Having a semi-decent performance against Fedor doesn't automatically mean you're destined for success in MMA. Even Fujita and Randleman gave Fedor some scares. Hell even Mark Coleman had a dominant position on Fedor as did Mark Hunt. But at the end of the day...so what?
The facts are, Rogers is a big man at 6'2, 260 or so and also is fat and doesn't have a good chin. He doesn't have a grappling game to speak of either nor is his cardio that impressive.
He's not anything special. Just another big strong guy in a line of big strong guys. He's a guy who came from a regular 9-5 job working in an autoshop who tried MMA and did well for himself thus far, just like Tim Sylvia.
He's not a born and bred fighter. And his end will be coming soon.
I find it really ridiculous why even the most intelligent and experienced MMA fans always fall for a bit of hype just from a couple of decent performances. It's like everybody is just looking for that one guy to latch on to.
Look at that clown Mousasi. Everybody in the world was calling this guy the next coming of God! The motherf*cking idiot couldn't even stop a basic wrestling takedown. A big F U to the idiots who keep hyping up these clowns!
Learn your f*cking lessons already before you blindly jump onto the bandwagon of the next supposed "Great" fighter.

 

That's why Z is fondly known by most here as Zhonny Come Lately. The guy didn't know what cage fighting was until Griffen/Bonnar I when one of his buddies called him halfway through.

 

You have so many inconsistancies from day to day its unreal. Its too tiresome to point out have the time. You bash on one fighter for one thing and then bash another fighter for the exact opposite. MMA is evolving everyday just as the NFL has, boxing has, hockey has and so on. The fighters of 10 years ago are different than today and they will be different 10 years from now as well. Brett Rogers might not be the second coming, but he will have a nice career. He is young, eager to learn and already at a stage in his career 90% of fighters only dream of.

 

His chin is fragile because he was knocked down for the first time by the best ever with a monster shot heard outside the arena? I don't get that.

 

Boxing hasn't evolved. It's regressed.:: Just so happens athletes today are able to find a way to enhance their ability with better drugs that can go undetected. As for MMA, it's not evolving as fast as you think it is. For every good fighter out there, there is a bad fighter. The training methods might have evolved a small degree but at the end of the day, every martial art is the same and the martial arts being practiced date back hundreds of years. Fighters generally are learning to fight one way which is basically to get the takedown and stay on top and either wait it out or GnP. Tell me what was so great about that sh*tty StrikeForce card last saturday? You call any of that evolution of MMA? It's the same boring crap we saw 5 years ago. One guy scoring the takedown and humping his opponent until the bell rings.
We'll see how much you're talking when 'Buck' Rogers gets his head smashed off his shoulders. Then we can talk about the next big hypejob.

 

He was out on his feet anytime Fedor made any type of contact with his chin. Check out the first round too if you got the video. Rogers is crap!

 

You're a fucking idiot Steve, you have no idea what you're talking about. I was watching MMA before most people knew what the fuck it was.

You and Hanzy are the clowns of this forum, the shit I took this morning has more knowledge of MMA than both of you clowns combined.

 

All the guys you mentioned who did OK against Fedor all had successful MMA careers did they not? Am I saying Rogers is great? Learn my lesson? Who did I hype that turned out to suck? I give credit where it's due, that is all.

 

Mark Hunt, Randleman and Coleman were pretty horrible.

 

BS! I was watching MMA before it even existed. Basically watching shootwrestling on tv which was as close to MMA as we got at the time.
You have ZERO mma knowledge. You don't know anything! Just like TFK. TFK went 0-3 in his StrikeForce predictions. How the f*ck is somebody gonna get respect for his mma knowledge when they're going 0-3 in their predictions? Basically it means the MMA "geniuses" know f*ck all about MMA. They're predictions are as meaningful as the homeless guy on the street.::

 

They all sucked!

 

I don't care what you watched, you still know nothing. A few guys in here have good knowlegde of the sport, none of them are you.

 

I wouldn't say they don't suck. They do, especially by todays standards. being a good or shitty fighter never entered this discussion though. My point was they all had successful MMA careers.

 

Sub-500 careers.

It'd be like calling Emmanuel Agustus successful, but thatd actually be an insult to Agustus,

 

Horrible is very harsh. Hunt was a very game fighter who was tough for anyone to beat and could change the fight with one punch. Randleman definately had a lot of losses but his wrestling pedigree and natural abilities could make a tough fight for any fighter. And with Coleman its not even close. Coleman was a UFC champion as well as a Pride open weight grand prix winner. None of these guys were even close to horrible.

 

The fact that we all know who these guys are is to some degree, success. I'm not going to split hairs here, this is a stuipid ass discussion anyway. My only point in all of this is Rogers is not a bum. I'm not saying he's great, he's just not that bad.

 

I don't even know what the hell you're talking about Z. WTF is "knowledge" when it comes to MMA? What exactly is it that you need to know in order to be deemed an expert in MMA? Because your knowledge sure doesn't show in your ability to pick fights.::
Get off your high-horse. Your opinion on MMA is as relevant as mine. It means f*ck all to anybody. Opinions are like assholes, we all have 'em.:kidcool:

 

I know who Jake O' Brian is too. He sucks though.

 

Let's put it this way. One of us likes to discuss the good in the sport, the other does nothing but bitch and complain about it.

I never claimed to be an expert, I just like the sport, have been watching it for a long time and don't like to hear constant negativity from the same couple guys all the damn time.

 

What do fight predictions have to do with anything? Show me where you picked Shields and Mo to upset Henderson and Gay-guard. Hardly anyone on earth did, let alone you.