What does ROUND TWO tell us?

This will be the most talked about round of Floyd's career.

It was the first time I've seen Floyd genuinely hurt. What does it tell us about him?

Does it say that his chin is mediocre?
Does it speak to his recuperative abilties?
Does it speak to his heart in that it didn't make him "run like a bitch" but rather made him come back still pressing teh fight and being the agressor?
Does it speak to his survival instincts?
Does it mean that a younger Shane would have stopped him?
Does it mean that manny Pacquiao has a KO chance against Floyd?

Let's discuss this

 

I think the first two. Since one punch from Mosley made his legs rubbery, it is plausible to think that Floyd does not have the best chin. Margarito ran into tens of right crosses before Mosley could really hurt him.

Also, it seems that Floyd does know what to do when hurt. He clinched, he pressed against Mosley to take away the room from his punches and cleared his head.

And the most important thing was that after Mosley surprised him with the quickness of his right hand, Floyd began to hold his left glove up and Mosley never landed another solid punch upstairs. To me, that was the most impressive thing. Against Pac Mayweather will keep his hands up from the start

 

Margarito took more punches than Floyd but Margarito is also much bigger. Weight proportions as they relate to punch resistance I suppose. Floyd ain't got a granite chin, but Pac ain't knocking him out.

 

I don't know what Round 2 tells us. I do know that your interpretation of Round 2 tells me you have not seen the Corley-MW, Hatton-MW or Judah-MW fights.

Floyd was hurt in all of those fights. A guy as fit as Floyd, with such a clean living attitude, is always likely to recuperate better than not. He doesn't have a great chin, he doesn't come from a long line of guys with good chins. He is hard to catch often and flush, and is well conditioned. He is also quite a hard dude, irrespective of how cowardly he is outside the ring, he is a genuinely hard man.

The trick with Floyd is to hurt him often, not with a view to stopping him, but with a view to getting him out of his rhythm.

 

How many times are you going to post that shite picture?

 

It means Floyd is one helluva of a FIGHTER.

He was hurt BAD. Kept swinging even while unstable on his feet, but kept his composure and followed the gameplan which was to stay right in front of Mosley.

Watch his face as he is reaching to grab and tie up Shane from further damage. NO EXPRESSION. That's some FIGHTER right there. Just absorbed a huge shot, his legs did the elevator dance, and the guy cleared his head and kept coming.

Usually that's a fight tideturner, but in Floyd's case, it was the opposite.

Pacquaio would try to volume punch Floyd, alternating power with speed and would find Floyd's prefight antics amusing. "Nothing personal for me. Just doing my job to please the fans."

Floyd has size, reach and strength advantages. EASY MONEY, make the fight Floyd!

 

mediocre chin
average to good recuperative abilties
Very good survival instincts
Of course Manny has a KO chance against Floyd.

 

It confirms what I've always thought. That he's as chinny as they come. It's ingrained in his genes just like being a woman beating asshole is.

 

Please. He took your hero's best shot, fought the cob webs, and had Shane running away within two minutes.

Floyd is a tougher man than Shane Mosley.

 

Nah. Just younger and fresher. We've seen this before.

 

I'm as big a Mosley fan there is, but people seem to forget that Shane was afraid to let his hands go for at least three years after round two with Forrest.

 

It says alot about who PBF is. First off no one and I mean no thought PBF was gonna fight toe to toe with Mosley. Everyone assumed including me that PBF was gonna box circles around Mosley to an easy victory. But that wasn't the case. Anyways PBF took 2 of Mosleys bombs and yest he was a bit on queer street but for him to recover after Mosley was trying to get him out shows me that he has excellent recovery skills. Now people are claiming that his chin is a little suspect. Well I don't agree with that cause a chin that is made of china would not have been able to absorb those 2 bombs like that. I'm not gonna say his chin is made of granite but damn the dude took the shots did what he needed to do to recover and by the end of the round he was pressing the action. But I think most importantly the PBF is a bitch can now be dismissed. As mentioned the dude for more in the phone booth last night then he has prolly since the Burton fight. Hell he boxed more against JMM. PBF is a great thinking mans fighter and he showed it last night by neutralizing everything Shane attempted to do. Great great fight. I'll Holla 5000

 

really?

 

It definately told us that Mayweather has got fortitude and is great at making adjustments in a fight. I was impressed with the fighters spirit that Mayweather displayed last night. He was definately not afraid of Mosley one bit. Now does this have a lot to do with Mosleys inability to get off and the difference in speed? I don't know, but I applaud PBF's performance.

 

Well i was DAM impressed i always been a floyd hater and was hoping he would get stopped because i thought he was out after that second right hand BUT to watch him MAN up and actually take the fight to Mosley after he was hurt the most he ever was in any fight was something great to see.
The man is no coward many would have said FUCK THAT i not getting ko'd but he got a bit embarrassed by getting wobbled and proceeded to whoop shanes azz and chose not to run.

 

I've already addressed this idiotic stance in another thread. I also don't get this toe to toe bullshit being spouted either. The one time floyd resembled a fighter going toe to toe was in round 2 and even that is stretching, and you all saw what happened.

 

Props to you for being objective. Floyd standing right in front of Shane for the rest of the fight and being the aggressor has been conveniently forgotten by many. I thought for sure that he would get on his bike coming out of the corner for the 3rd round.

 

Toe to toe means you are standing right in front of the other fighter, did this not happen?

 

looked like a mayweather fight to my eyes. and if you want to believe he went toe to toe then you have to wonder how difficult that is with a dead man throwing no meaningful punches?

 

round two told phonetap floyd was forutunate he wasn't in there against a younger, more explosive shane mosley because coming forward to shane would have been suicide for floyd. even though shane landed those big shots he was sluggish that entire fight. props to floyd for adjusting, coming back and dominating, floyd could have even stopped shane if he pressed harder.

 

1st of All, Floyd was ALSO "Genuinely Hurt" in the Corley Fight, but Good Topic Nonetheless...

Shane Mosley has Been a GOOD Puncher @ Every Weight he's Competed @...Shane Mosley Caught Floyd w/Not 1, but 2 FLUSH Shots...Buzzed Floyd w/1 then REALLY Hurt him w/the Other...

Mayweather HELD, Cleared the Cobwebs & Then Won EVERY SECOND OF EVERY ROUND THEREAFTER...Shit, Floyd even FORCED THE ISSUE FOR EVERY SECOND OF EVERY ROUND THEREAFTER...Shane Fought as if Floyd HURT HIM in Round 2::...

Round 2 Tells Us that for All of his Skills, Boxing Acumen & Defensize Prowess, Floyd Mayweather is TOUGH...He was EMBARRASSED & had his Manhood CHALLENGED in Round 2, so he Came Out in Round 3 & IMMEDIATELY Redeemed Himself....

Even Floyd's HARSHEST Critics had to B IMPRESSED w/his RESPONSE to Round 2...



REED:hammert:

 

What greatly upset me is that Shane had Floyd hurt but instead of throwing more punches, he began grabbing and wrestling Floyd and after that round, Shane was finished. A f*cking elite athlete was physically spent after only round 2 of a mega fight!!! :: :laughing: He didn't do anything after that, he just shimmers and bounced and did f*ck all and this is before Floyd even started getting into rhythm.
I must say, Shane sure had me fooled. I actually bought into his bullsh*t that he was in the greatest shape of his life. Oh well, he can retire with his $7 million and whacked ass tatoo.
Anyway, I'm giving credit to Floyd for the win. He dealt with his business like a pro and showed a fairly good chin. Props to Floyd.:kidcool:
I also learned that no matter how good your abs look, you can't cheat Father Time.

 

I lost a lot of respect for Shane Mosley. Anybody who gasses out after round 2 of the biggest fight of their careers should never again be allowed to box. That is f*cking weak sh*t! An elite athlete gassed out after round 2. Not even f*cking Lennox at age 38 and carrying a sh*tload more weight gassed out after only 2 rounds in a high action fight against Vitali.
I mean, Shane stopped f*cking punching after round 2. I thought he was taking round 3 off and would come back hard in round 4 but the motherf*cker took the rest of the fight off.:laughing:

 

yeah but the day will come when somebody hits Floyd hard and actually follows up with a lot more punches than what Shane threw. This ain't a 38 year old man's game, dawg. This is a young man's game.
Still, I give props to Floyd because he attacked. That's how he's gotta fight and make statements. Not that prancy sh*t he did against Oscar.

 

I agreed. I felt that he showed a real fighting spirit in coming back and taking the fight right to Shane soon after being hurt. He didn't run, he didn't cower in the corner but he actually got aggresive and started throwing power shots. This shortly after taking a hella shot directly on the temple.

 

I agree with the consensus.

Seeing Floyd seriously hurt for teh first time in his career, proves his mettle. The true test of a man is how he reacts to adversity. Up until now..Floyd hasn't faced the prospect of imminent defeat. For a second or two he was in that room Ali used to talk about.

And Shane was still fresh, it was only round two and there was a full 1.5 mins left in the round. Shane, "old" or not, is still a tremendous finisher, and Floyd has the heart, the smarts and teh fortitude to ride the storm and do what it takes to get out of the room..and in addition to this to press the action towards the end of teh very round and come out stong in the very next round...so strong in fact that he had Shane scared and confused.

People wanted to see what Floyd was made of when he was truly tested, and if you asked me he passed with flying colours!

 

Mosley didn't gassed out in round 2..Mosley wasn't right from the very beginning he was too hyped up w/ the Parkinson hand movement, he was out feinting himself and never got into the fight other than the two right hands he landed on Mayweather.

The only body work he did early was with a jab, and at time he was throwing that same left hook he caught Margarito with at the end of round 8. Mosley plan seem to be catch Mayweather with the right hand...that was it. Tap Jabs 1 or 2 then load up on the right hand..

Mosley was tired later on the fight....but not as early as round 2...

 

Yes, Floyd did well. I won't disagree. But I didn't know Shane's stamina was that bad either. I thought we were going to get the Shane from the Oscar fight back in summer 2000. I mean he was telling us he was in the greatest shape he's ever been. I was conned! He finished after round 2. He actually was finished BEFORE Floyd started landing punches. I was confused as sh*t as to what was going on with Shane. It's like he simply got old and couldn't pull the trigger. I mean yeah, he is OLD by boxing standards but I expected a much higher workrate.
Anyway, Floyd got my respect. He won the fight and showed he's the top guy.

 

But shane stopped punching after round 2. Watch round 3 and watch him not do anything. Floyd in round 3 is still unsure of himself, he hasn't yet got his rhythm. Shane didn't exploit a hurt man in front of him.
Shane last night was like watching Tyson from the McBride fight. Old, deteriorated and no longer able to fight at a high pace like in his prime.