Mayweather: If Pacquiao Won't Get Drug Tested, No Fight!

Wladimir has never fought or defeated anyone as good as Shane Mosley(even the old version that Mayweather fought)....

and Mayweather was never fucked up by Puritty, Sanders or Brewster..that equivalent to Mayweather getting fucked up by N'dou, Gatti and Augustus...:nono:

 

Cannot agree. I think Chris Byrd was a talented fighter who beat a lot of quality guys in a smart, technical fashion.

I was comparing the last 6 years, strictly. I was basically saying that both men have settled into a hit-and-dont get hit grove, that both guys know what to do when buzzed, and that both of them are happy with a clear as daylight 12 round win, as not.

Of course, you had to just turn into a frothing spastic. Moron.

 

The point seemed to be their styles though, not their accomplishments

 

Thank you. But the mere mention of a Klitschko turns these yanks into slobbering, frothing irrational spastics.

You can hear it in Manny's commentary during the Mosley-Mayweather fight, when he complimented Floyd for holding on during the 2nd round.

It's obvious, they both have the same outlook for their fights. If the KO is there, take it. If not, chip away, put rounds in the bank. Get hurt? Hold. Get bothered? Hold.

 

Pac not agreeing to this fight must mean he's on something

 

Manny can just agree to the drug testing and request either a 50/50 split or that the fight be outside Vegas. Then the fight negotiations are off again. :boohoo:

 

BTW the drug testing for the shane fight was absurd. My understanding was the results went only one way. Floyd recieving them.

DO YOU REALLY THINK PAC and ARUM would AGREE to this?:


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Mayweather to Dictate Drug Testing Terms for Mosley Fight




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By Paul Upham: Now that the contracts for the May 1 Floyd Mayweather Jr-Shane Mosley welterweight boxing match have been signed, SecondsOut can reveal a stunning component of their agreement. In signing off on the deal, Mosley has given Mayweather complete control over the drug testing to be implemented, apart from any testing that is required by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

A source who was involved in the contract negotiations for the fight told SecondsOut on Friday, “Shane has signed a contract that says Floyd can dictate the terms of the drug testing. Anything that Floyd wants is all right, as long as Floyd submits to the same testing requirements as Shane. There is no provision one way or another in the contract for public disclosure of the test results, although I would think that the parties would be bound to report a positive test result to the Nevada commission.”

In other words, Floyd Mayweather Jr has now supplanted the Nevada State Athletic Commission for his fight with Mosley in so far as testing for performance enhancing drugs is concerned.

The manner in which Mayweather chooses to implement this contract provision could reinforce or make a folly of his demand that Manny Pacquiao submit by contract to random blood testing - a demand which subsequently led to the cancellation of their proposed March 13 super-fight.

It also raises a number of important issues and questions about the Mayweather-Mosley fight and its legitimacy in the eyes of the public.

1. If U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) testing was demanded for Mayweather-Pacquiao, will it be insisted upon by Floyd Mayweather for Mayweather-Mosley?

2. What would the Nevada State Athletic Commission do if, just prior to the Mayweather-Mosley fight, they received a positive test result?

3. If there is no public disclosure of the testing, how could the public be sure that a positive test would be reported to the Nevada State Athletic Commission?

4. If there is no public disclosure of the testing, a positive test could result in the fight being cancelled with a bogus reason for the cancellation being given to the public.

One boxing insider, when told of the contract terms for Mayweather-Mosley, said, “If Floyd Mayweather Jr does not demand the same stringent USADA testing by USADA of Mosley that he was demanding of Pacquiao, it would look hypocritical at best.”

On January 17, SecondsOut’s senior columnist Thomas Hauser wrote a 10,000 word expose Mayweather-Pacquiao, PEDs, and Boxing. It was the most in-depth analysis ever of the issue of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) in boxing. The content of the story and the questions raised were applauded by those in the boxing industry and fans around the world.

In demanding that Pacquiao submit to Mayweather’s blood testing demands, Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer, put themselves in a very delicate position for future fight agreements.

Hauser wrote, “Golden Boy can take the lead on the issue of PEDs in boxing and become a beacon of integrity by requiring its fighters to submit to Olympic-style drug testing before each major fight. And in order to fight on a Golden Boy card (remember; Golden Boy has a lot of dates on HBO), it could require opponents to do the same.”

The contracts signed by Mayweather, Mosley, and Golden Boy Promotions, where blood testing is at Mayweather’s whim rather than a contractual requirement, call Golden Boy’s absolute demand of Pacquiao into question.

Also at this time, there has been no announcement about any contractually mandated drug testing requirements for the April 3 Bernard Hopkins-Roy Jones Jr rematch, which is promoted by Golden Boy Promotions and Square Ring. Jones has previously tested positive for PEDs, while Hopkins (like Mosley) has never tested positive. However, it is a matter of record that Mosley did in fact use PEDs prior to his second fight against Oscar De La Hoya.

In his column, Hauser also observed that, if Oscar De La Hoya is truly committed to the improvement of boxing, he could “show the world how a righteous PED-free fighter acts. In order to fully inform the public on the issues involved (and remove any hint of suspicion that he himself might not have clean hands) Oscar should waive his right to confidentiality and authorize the Nevada State Athletic Commission to release the results of any tests for performance enhancing drugs that he has taken in the past. The same waiver should authorize all present and past NSAC personnel and any other person with knowledge of the situation to discuss the test results with any media representative who inquires about them.”

To date, De La Hoya has been silent on the issue of this waiver.


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wtf does this old ass article have to do with anything ::

 

you guys. It is not 'changing the rules.' There has never been a rule that permits you to do PED's.

 

Where's the proof that Manny does PEDS?

 

The fact that he won't take blood tests because he's too "small" ::

 

Please explain to me how this proves he's on PEDS?

 

I will bet $100 on it now......Manny Pac vs Floyd Mayweather NEVER GETS MADE. It won't happen. Just wont.

 

will you wait until one or both guys are dead to collect that yard?

 

There has never been a rule that you can decide when and how your opponent gets tested, either

 

That's not a rule, it's a condition.

 

You have size, reach, strength and skills advantage. Floyd, it's EASY MONEY. Agree to a 17 day cutoff and make the fight happen.

 

Right, and Manny seems to have a condition that they have a regular testing. Rules are on Manny's side

 

You hopped from Popo to Pacman? Why should there be a cutoff at all? Which lie are you riding? Or have you created your own special defense for Manny?

 

Since when is Manny "create my own weight classes and weight infraction fees" Pacquiao a rules kind of guy?

 

Look, I am not saying Manny is any better, the crap he pulled with Cotto was equally bad which I also said already

 

I hopped from Popo to BOXING. Much healthier outlook.

I just want the fight to be MADE.

The only FIGHTER capable now of defeating Floyd is Pacquaio.
The only FIGHTER capable now of defeating Pacquaio is Mayweather.

Floyd has every conceivable advantage. Pacquaio wants 24 days, Floyd wants 14, make it 17 and get it done.

 

Nice revisionist history. Floyd Mayweather didn't create the protocol the USADA uses. And the USADA wanted testing up until the fight. The 14 days was Floyd's attempt at compromising. Again (the question you can't seem to answer), why should there be a cut-off at all? Oh wait, because Manny wants to know ahead of time when he'll be getting "randomly" tested.

 

I agree. So spare us with the "rules" crap. When contracts are drawn between two big fighters, they create whatever rules they want. Sometimes the commission gets crapped on, other times they don't. As long as they get paid, they don't care.

 

Here we go again.

There is no proof that Manny is on PEDS.

Now that this fight is back in the spotlight let's get it done the right way. Institute The testing at commission level. Anyone wants to box professionally has to take these tests. No choices, no negotiations. Get it DONE.

Manny or any other boxer balks at that after it becomes the rule then they're on PEDs.

 

One more thing: all results made public.

 

Every one of Manny's contracts in recent bouts has carried stipulations that go against the rules. Why is it that this one has to be made an official rule first?

 

Exactly. They create the rules, not one of them creates the rules. Floyd wants one thing, Manny wants another. In this case Manny has a greater claim to his demand since the rules are on his side. Just like the rules were on Cotto's side, he just chose not to demand them

 

Fair point - now...what is the issue again? Why is there a problem with USADA protocol?

 

Just say it this way- If your wie/gf accuses you of cheating, and theres a way to prove her wrong and make her look stupid, dont you get that proof?