Which big fight was a bigger letdown?

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    All and all though... I'm not trying to discredit Floyd for the win. He dominated impressively, even if he did have a shot old great in front of him. Floyd, Roy, and Whitaker are the best 3 fighters theres been since Leonard.
     
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  2. Joe King

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    My point is did you really think Shane would stop throwing punches like he did? I didn't see any reason for him to stop throwing punches at that point, a few rounds later it was very apparent that he was simply being beaten to the punch. Rounds 3-6 still had legitimate drama because it was conceivably close on the cards at that point. Shane was still on his toes during rounds 3 and 4.
     
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    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Floyd's weird in the regard that he'd be an underdog against most all time greats P4P. I think Jones would stop him P4P but that he'd beat Whitaker.
     
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    Jones wouldnt stop him. But P4P I'd pick Roy by UD. And I think Pea beats Floyd at 135 w/o a doubt. At 147 I give Floyd a pretty good chance.
     
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    Floyd and Roy, primes, are both better fighters than Ray Leonard. Whitaker is arguably better also.
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    Well, my friend, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I watched the fight right in front of a big screen TV at a buddy's with 5 other people and it seemed pretty obvious to me that Shane was running out of steam prior to when you mentioned it.

    I've watched fights at sports bars (and even a few closed circuit fights back in the day... and when a noisy crowd reacts loudly to every punch, landed or not, it can create a different perception of the fight than watching it in a less hectic environment. AND, drama is in the eyes of the beholder. Hell...I WISHED the fight was more dramatic after the 3rd rounds, but I didn't see it that way.

    To me, it seemed Shane was running out of gas as early as the 4th and with Mayweather back on his game from that point on, it seemed to me highly unlikely that Mosley was going to repeat his earlier success.
     
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    Actually I predicted a second round ko for ssm! So I was way off but was almost shocked when PBF was hurt. However if you are now playing the monday morning qb then I'm talking about you. If not then do yourself a favor and don't respond to my post. But like I said nobody predicted that PBf would be the one to impose his will like he did. I take that back Sly is the one that got the prediction damn near spot on. But for anyone to claim that this wasn't a great performance by PBF is not a true boxing fan. This was a big time fight and PBF stepped and game up. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    You're the only one who makes a fool of himself when talking about Floyd.
     
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    Roy at 168 was the best fighter Ive ever seen. His haters can say whatever, but its true.

    But I cant consider Floyd, and Whitaker better then Leonard. They were better defensively, but not overall.
     
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    In neither of those fights was Mosley 38 years old and coming off a 16 month layoff.
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    I'm sure Floyd appreciates your undying and biased love for him Mr. "Floyd by Stoppage there can be no doubt".
     
  12. Joe King

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    I'll say it again. It's easy to say that NOW, after the fight.

    I call bullshit on anyone saying that they knew that Shane was done when the bell for Round 3 rang.
     
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    Word.

    It's close between ray and Floyd and Whitaker..so i can accept opinions either way and there are good reasons for both positions.

    I'd give Ray the slight edge on Whitaker and Floyd the slight edge on Ray.
     
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    Well...

    Shane is traditionally a fighter who's looking for the KO every moment of teh fight. Who would have known that Shane would have fought teh last 5 rounds to survive? No one could have predictedthat. I truly believe that IF Shane had been throwing caution to the wind as he usally does and looking to KO Floyd..he would have beeen KO'd himself and that was the basis of my prediction.

    And as for "undying love".... :lol:
     
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    Well...you responded to REED (who was responding to me in the post you responded to) with that vague, tired and cliched "Monday Morning Quarterback" comment.

    Floyd won with room to spare...there is no denying that. BUT...anyone who pretends Shane's age and long layoff had nothing to do with the result is either blind or being purposefully misleading. So please save that "true fans" foolishness for someone else.
     
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    IF, IF IF...Coulda, woulda, shoulda....the bottom line is that it DIDN'T happen. You made that bold prediction and if it had happened you would be drowning the forum in "I told you so" and "I am the greatest" and other similar topics. But it didn't. Having something happen that you didn't expect is usually the reason for a failed prediction. That's not exactly rocket science.

    And you are by far the biggest Mayweather groupie on this forum. It's really funny to see you try to deny it.
     
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    You can say it 100 times and it won't be any more valid that the first time you said it.
     
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    and you publicly denying it doesn't mean I am not right. You know I am.:cheer:
     
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    Nope. You are a registered Floyd groupie and therefore your biased opinion is suspect.:lol:
     
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    Hey, great strawman there. I just wrote that I wouldn't favor PBF over most 147 all time greats. Sure, I'm a blind PBF supporter.:doh:
     
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    Oh, please it's obvious that you are a Floyd groupie. And if you wrote that, all it means is you have a slightly more realistic view than Sly.
     
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    Mayweather-Mosley wasn't a letdown to me. I didn't expect it to be that good of a fight anyway. In fact it was better than I thought due to Mayweather's approach.

    Trinidad-De La Hoya is another story.
     
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    I don't try to deny it. I'm proud of my status. I back an all time great. :kidcool:

    But acting as though I "love" the man is just ridiculous. I'm a fan of his talent and skills in the ring.
     
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    You act like it's an insult to be a fan of a great fighter. Aren't you a Ray Robinson "groupie"?
     
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    wasnt Floyd a 4-1 favourite?

    a Mosley win would have been considered an "upset"
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    Not that I know of. Robinson is one of the greatest fighters ever, but I wouldn't say I am much of a fan of his. He fought before my time so I've never seen him fight live.

    Hell..I hardly ever discuss Robinson at all unless someone else starts a topic that includes him.

    So that's yet another incorrect for you.
     
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