WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT FIGHTERS REFUSING CHAMPIONSHIP BELTS?

What do you think of what Floyd did and how would you feel if others followed suit? The sport is meant to win championship belts but some are refusing to take them in order to not pay sanctioning fees.

Personally I completely agree with the fighters. Those fees are usually in the 6 figure range so I don't see how many of the average champions who aren't on PPV's can even afford it. I'd dump mine and keep the money.

 

I don't think the fees are usually in the 6 figure range.

I think the belts are often comparatively worth more to the fighter than a cut man or 2nd assist, etc.

 

A sanctioning body should be non-profit, but it clearly isn't.

I believe the sanctioning fees are 3%. It's the PPV guys that pay the most since their purses are so high.

The problem I have with it is that if I'm not mistaken, ranked fighters have to pay sanctioning fees too. That's how the promoters get their fighters ranked and into title fights faster than a fighter with no representation.

I love the RING title in theory but that publication has lost its luster and some of its credibility. At least they finally got their own website.

 

It's hard to generalize this. It depends on where you are in your carreer.

If your an up and coming fighter a belt is everything. Most of these guys refusing belts now are in a position where they don't need it. And the % of a sanctioning fee is just stupid based on how much they are making.

 

Does anyone still consider Mosley the Welterweight champion after the events of a few days ago? Of course not --- & that was achieved without the need for exorbitant & superfluous fees.

The governing bodies have squandered all credibility. I could hardly think of a better scenario than Mayweather telling them to screw themselves. He's effectively said, "To hell with you, I'll let my fists tell the world who's the champion, & you can go broke watching." I couldn't be happier, personally. I hope it happens more & more. Jose Suilaman, as a high-profile example, is one of the most morally-bankrupt individuals in a sport teeming with such parasites.

 

The sanctioning bodies have dug their own graves with open idiocy and now they have almost reached the point where nobody, fighters, promoters nor fans, give a shit about their belts. Floyd's decision was the correct one and more fighters should follow.

Forget about being 'undisputed' according to the belts, instead be the best by beating everyone

 

...& starve the fat cats in the process. Amen.

 

Sulaiman is a bitch

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]“…it was for me a humiliation and a threat to all world boxing institutions, which are who open the doors to all boxers from their very beginning, bringing them into the world ratings, to give boxers the opportunities to win world titles that lead them to fame and glory,†said Sulaiman. “They enjoy it for a while to fall next into the paws of the giant TV corporations and some promoters, once that boxers have become the top of the cream, taking away the merits and kicking in the behinds of the world sanctioning bodies, once they don’t need them any more, while those organizations continue working, through the good and the bad, to bring more boxers to the top, to see again the same lesson be repeated once and again.
“If this practice is not remedied, and as they can not produce the elite boxers that are born and formed by the modest boxing promoters and the local boxing commissions, boxing will be led to extinction as a great competitive sport in no more than 25 to 50 years.
“Oscar de la Hoya, the promoter, as well as the WBC’s superheroes, Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosley, built their greatness on the opportunities that the WBC, and less frequently, other colleague organizations gave them, while HBO reached the top of boxing TV, showing the best fights in half a century of the WBC.
“These three great boxers continue being my personal heroes and absolutely the pride of the WBC, as well as keeping my respects for HBO. But how sad and unfair it is that they have forgotten the institutions that opened their doors and let them to conquer glory and the pride of the boxing fans of the world. As the fight Mayweather-Mosley is going to be exclusively for the money and only to see who is going to win over the other, with no other interest, and as a boxing fan, I have decided to stay home to watch it on the Mexican Televisa, which does recognize and respect always those which have been an important part to take boxers to the heights.â€

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Fuck Suliaman. He should be kicked out of the IBHOF.

 

These guys create new belts just to steal a fighters purse. The Diamond belt or whatever it was, was a joke.

 

what ever happened to the diamond belt?

 

I was hopin this would happen years ago,but its better late than ever.I still like the Ring Championship and its system.

 

Count me in on that.

 

I don't know, but now there is also a WBC silver belt

 

Exactly...

Guys like Tim Bradley, Andre Berto, Amir Khan, etc. NEED a Belt to STAND OUT...But if/when a Fighter is FORTUNATE Enough to Reach a Floyd/Pac Level, Belts & Sanctioning Fees R POINTLESS...



REED:hammert:

 

If I was Floyd, I'd have done exactly the same. Bottom line: whoever wins Floyd-Pac is undisputed welterweight champ whether there are 4 belts on the line or none.

 

Agree completely with Latin King, UGTBK and Ramonza's points.

In fact, seems like EVERYONES on the same page on this one.

 

word.

Floyd winning yet another belt means nothing at this point. Same with Pac.

 

*Waits for mike to convince everybody that the SB's are good for boxing*

 

Sanctioning bodies are so last decade....i can't remember the last time i saw an IBO or WBU title fight....they used to be a weekly occurance on british tv screens.

I like the idea of belts, champions. And i'm ok with more than one. But these organisations are just arbitrarily run....they make it up as they go along. Until they get their shit together, i have no problem with fighters snubbing them.

 

In the days where there were just three belts...belts meant something.

Since WBO started and then WBU, IBO and all that other shit....the meaning of belts began to subside.

I agree with those that say that up and comers need belts to stand out...but once a fighter is established, ring magazine belt is all that matters.

 

No amount of propaganda is going to convince me of the WBO's legitimacy either. Take note, HBO.

 

Exactly.

 

Good post I agree.:cheer:

 

The addition of other sanctioning bodies isn't the sole reason for the decline of the validity of the belts.

The WBA, WBC, IBF has had poor management and misguided agendas. THAT is why the belts are meaningless more than additional belts to go around.

 

This is true also.

 

I don't convince, but I try. I'm going to rope-a-dope on this one for the time being.

But keep in mind the punches aren't getting through. ::

 

Don't look. Name the Ring champs if they matter so much. That goes for the rest of you with the same mentality.

 

Who said Ring magazine is the bastion of titles? I know that was the consensus but it was quickly revealed that they have their own motives.

As a whole, the sanctioning bodies have failed.

 

Without belts there would be no mandatories which would rob deserving guys who no one wants to fight of their title challenge. There is both good and bad to the current system.