Dana White bans Paul Daley from UFC and also lets Kimbo go

What do you think? I think Kimbo deserved another fight. Sure he sucks but who cares he brings in viewers. Why let him go? he's only 1-1 in the UFC

and as far as baley this is what he said

“I don’t care if he fights in every show all over the world and becomes the best and everybody thinks he’s the pound-for-pound best in the world,” White said. “He will never fight in the UFC ever again.”

 

Kimbo has bad legs/knees he will can be exposed over and over again. Even a loser like meathead could come up with a plan to beat him. Go for his legs. He had a little taste of the UFC which is more than most get. He has no future as a MMA star.

Daleys' suckerpunch was unexcusable. The fight ends at the bell, period. Daley will be made an example of. The good news is he can go hang with the Diaz brothers now.

 

I think they should have bought in some real tomato cans for Kimbo to fight before dropping him. His fans would have eaten that shit up for at least 2 years before he got exposed. Oh well.

As for Daley, I think a lifetime ban is way too harsh. Even Margarito only got a year ban.

 

I disagree. It would have cheapened the organization. Kimbo is shit, cannot be improved upon, and needed to be cut loose. There is nothing for him in the sport. Time to go back to the backyards and loading docks.

 

that's what I'm thinking too. I like Kimbo, as I said a while ago, he's an entertainer, not a world class fighter, but these type of guy's have a place in combat sport, even in big organisation like the UFC. Problem is, Kimbo last fights haven't been entertaining, worst, even thought he's inexperienced, it seems he's not improving at all. In fact, his stand up looked worse last night than it ever did. So now we have a boring, technically deficient fighter who gas early. THe only thing he got going for him is his strenght has even his punching power is average at best.

Unless he drops to 205, I have no intersest in seeing him again, Mittrione was far bigger than him and a guy like Kimbo won't be able to win fight vs serious pro guy's who are bigger than him.

 

I think a permanent ban is a touch harsh...makes you wonder if one of the UFC's marquee names would be treated in the same way....Dana's set a precedent now.


He'll most likely end up at strikeforce....a Nick Diaz fight could be fun.

 

James Butler did much much worse after his boxing fight and he was back soon enough

 

Kimbo's always been a one trick pony. Not much more than simply a youtube fighter.

 

You can't compare boxing and UFC...the sports are run in such a different way.

 

You're probably right, and this is the first time it has happened to date anyway...but as a 'what if' scenario, this example could leave Dana in an awkward position in the future.

 

I feel kind of sorry for Kimbo to be honest. Beyond his thuggish rep, he actually seems like an alright dude. And also, he seems to take MMA seriously, he puts effort into training/learning etc. The thing is, he's just not very good. He's a basic amateur boxer, clueless on the ground, not a particularly hard puncher, and seems to seriously lack determination/toughness.

Daley? Well hitting someone after the fight is over as is big a bitch move as you can get basically, but if there was ever a justifiable bitch move, this is it ::

First because of Koscheck fighting like an absolute faggot, and second - if Koscheck really said "Who's the pussy now?" after the fight, then Josh is obviously a nasty little cunt too, and deserved that punch. It's a shame Daley isn't a better boxer, and didn't actually land the punch properly ::

But in all seriousness, if Koscheck just lay and prayed him like he did, there's absolutely no excuse. A frustrating loss to be sure, but you're a professional, you have to control yourself.

If Koscheck really did call him a pussy after the fight, then basically Josh was starting a fight and making it personal AFTER the actual professional match, in which case I can't really blame Daley too much.

 

I think Kimbo should fight in every UFC event, but have him matched againest like guys who win some contest held by UFC..

like have Fans play a Lotto to see who can fight Kimbo on TV at the next UFC!!

He'd look great beating up guys who just are fans

 

Only a bitch would agree with or support trying to sucker punch someone.

If you want to take things up in a personal fight after the professional fight, then do it like a man and don't try to hit someone from behind. That's a bitch move regardless of the reasoning.

So using wrestling to control and easily win a fight is "being a faggot"? This is MMA not street fighting or backyard boxing. Daley is the guy that didn't have the skill to compete. Period.

 

I agree, which is why I said if he didn't call him a pussy after the fight, it was in inexcusable. But if he did, he was basically asking for it.

But no he wasn't just "using wrestling" he was laying and praying, there's a difference. He wasn't throwing Daley around like a ragdoll, please don't tell me you were impressed by Koscheck's pathetic performance. It was like a GSP performance, but even more boring, and less effective. He didn't even do any damage to Daley, like GSP manages to do, he basically just neutralised him. It was the very definition of lay and pray, just dry humped him for 3 rounds.

I don't agree with the sucker punch, and I'm not even a Daley fan, I'm just saying in this instance it was more justifiable than most, if Koscheck insulted him AFTER the fight.

It wasn't much different from say, Barrera sucker punching Morales at a press conference, or Mayorga slapping Din Thomas the other day.

It's a bitch move to be sure, but it sounds like Koscheck was asking for it, and a permanent ban seems a bit harsh. Maybe a fine and a year ban would be more appropriate, and would surely still teach him a lesson, and discourage anyone else from doing it.

 

Sure, but Mitrione is a tomato can.

 

Bullshit. Sticks and stones. Koscheck can insult him before, during, and after and it doesn't excuse taking a bitch sucker punch. If Koscheck called him a pussy, he was right.

 

Nah, Kimbo should just have his own reality show where he walks around with his camera crew into different parts of the city and fights the top dogs of respective street gangs or whoever wants to act tough. This would be a ratings monster!

 

What makes you think that ? Guy looks to have a lot of ability

 

Thank god someone finally chimed in on this.

I don't care what you think of Koscheck or what he did or didn't say.

The biggest pussy in the octagon that night was Daley for being a bitch and sucker punching Koscheck.

And Mike is exactly right. Daley proved that Koscheck was right for calling him a pussy.

I'm tired of this nonsense of blaming guys like Koscheck and GSP for using their superior wrestling to negate their opponent's skills. They won their respective fights because their were BETTER at MMA than their opponents.Period.

And if I recall the fight, Josh was constantly trying to improve his position. He passed guard several times. He mounted Daley 2 or 3 times. And he took his back a couple of times.

Daley got owned plain and simple because he's a one-trick pony with a good left hook. Koscheck took that away and easily won the fight. And yes, that impresses me.

 

Koscheck won fair and square, but it was rather a pathetic victory. I actually enjoy turbo charged wrestling, like some of GSP's GOOD performances.

Some of GSP's takedowns and wrestling control are a sight to behold, it's just insane the way he can violently and effortless take a guy down. Even to some extent Rashad's wrestling impresses me, so does Lesnar's.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against wrestling. I generally prefer wrestling to BJJ.

What I hate is lay and pray. Sure Koscheck outwrestled him, but he didn't maximise his control, he didn't fucking do anything when he got Daley down, but keep him there. He did no damage whatsoever. Sorry but there is only so much credit I can give someone for just pinning his opponent down, neutralising him, but without doing any real damage at all. I find it boring to watch, and a rather pathetic way of winning. It's lay and pray.

But in regards to the sucker punch, I'm not saying I advocate it, or it's something I would do, or anything like that. Daley IS a bitch, plain and simple. But so is Koscheck for insulting him after the fight, that's a pretty fucking bitchy thing to do. And if you insult your opponent after the fight, and your opponent hits you, surely the person that antagonised his opponent has to shoulder some of the blame? That is provocative and bitchy.

Tell me Trpl - do you think it's fine that Koscheck called him a pussy after the fight?

 

Daley called Kos a pussy, Kos just asked "Who's the pussy now" when the fight was over. I think Daley deserved it, he talked a load of shit before the fight, even talking shit about Kos' wrestling credetials, saying "Div 1 titles mean Fuck all in the UK"

Fuck Daley, he's a shit talking bitch and a sore loser.

 

Yeah, I think he has some natural ability, but I think the same of Kimbo. I meant that Mitrione is a 'tomato can' in the sense that he wasn't a bad matchup for Kimbo because he is such a novice. Houston Alexander seems like a tougher matchup in my mind, although he wasn't. mY bad.

 

Fair enough, I don't know anything about that. But still, it could have just been the standard pre fight shit talk, like Mayorga. But when the fight is over the fight is over, is it really called for to insult your opponent after the fight?

Daley is a bitch no doubt, but seemingly, so is Koscheck. That's assuming that it was just normal pre fight smack talk, I don't know, maybe they really hate each other. I picked Koscheck to win, and before the fight I didn't really like/dislike either of them. I felt Koscheck was somewhat underrated. After the fight though, they both look like cunts.

 

Yeah!

that's a good idea!! but if your man crush Dana was smart he'd do this IN the UFC..

each UFC have a segmant where it's Kimbo vs street guys

 

They really had some bad blood. Say what ever you want, words aren't illegal. Punching someone after the fight is over is. It's assault. There is no way to justify what Daley did.

 

He's crap! :: He has nothing. Crappy attempts at a triangle, armbar, no punching ability, and a stupid dorky look on his face. He'll be fodder for any semi-decent heavyweight.

 

Problem is EVERYONE knows about his knee's and they will be the first thing that gets attacked. Surviving any onslaught, then taking away his knees/legs, will be the only gameplan needed. After that he's all yours.