Kevin Mitchell vs Micheal Katsidis

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  1. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Without Warren I dunno if Mitchell would have ever gotten to a fight like this, with this kind of fanfare and this kind of pay packet.
     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    I'm as big a Katsidis fan as ANYONE on this site.

    I remember before the Casa fight people on here were asking who the hell Katsidis was and I was front and centre posting youtube clips of his fights and taking money bets on his prospects against that dirty Cuban bastard...:doh:

    I'm delighted that Katsidis won. If you don't like Katsidis, you are watching the wrong sport.

    But Werren is poison to guys like Mitchell. 31 fights and not a single live body among them. That is appalling promotion and means that Mitchell, who was a successful ammy and is a talented and skillful lad, found himsefl completely out of his depth because he expected the man in front of him to be like the last 31.

    Fucking woeful.

    MTF :shit:
     
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    Point taken on his first 20 or so fights but at this stage in his career I believe this was the right time and fight for him. Mitchell did use his head tonight regardless Katisdis is a deserving winner...
     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    If Kevin made more than a hundred grand I'll be very surprised.

    Do you think he thinks it was worth it? Battered in front of 20 thousand on his home turf?

    Look at Amir Khan. He got iced on PPV and yet is fighting in New York to defend his world title for a purse in the region of 2million.

    Still think Mitchell has done well here?

    MTF
     
  5. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Exactly.
     
  6. Irish

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    After Khan and Rubio talked and walked themselves into a 60 second destruction vs Prescott, Warren went on TV and took the blame immediately. He then fed Khan Oisin Fagan, a washed up Barrera {who was badly jobbed} and then a title fight, and then a glass jawed Salita. Warren did that. He did that.

    Amir Khan is merely making money tonight off a basis that Frank Warren made for him.
     
  7. Tam Tam

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    Khan is twice the fighter Mitchell was and will be. it was pretty clear early on. Besides, with Khan's background, he never needed a guy like Warren.

    Mitchell needed and needs all the help he can get. He has no shiny medal to fall back on.
     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    Khan deserves credit for fucking Werren off.

    I've never suggested otherwise so far as I can recall, even if he HAS been the subject of racism. That was never the driving force for his crossing the pond. It was because Werren would have had him in Bolton, fighting mandatory after mandatory for years and years.

    Khan is already a millionairre. He could have rapped it all in after the Prescott fight and spend the rest of his life spending his money. He didn't, and fair play to him.

    Amir is a FIGHTER. He has a china chin but he has a big heart. Evvery time he has been splattered, he has tried to get back up. I've always respected the kid for that.

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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    You must have watched a different post fight to me. Werren blamed Rubio and sacraficed him IMMEDIATELY.

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    Bullshit. Pure and utter bullshit. If that was even half true then why did Mitchell beat easily a guy that needed 50 seconds to destroy Khan? n Furthermore, Katsidis is better than anyone Khan has ever fought.

    You mention Khans background. Khans last amateur fight was arranged by whom?

    Again, BS. He was in with a killer tonight and he lost. If anyone needs help, and is getting it, it is Amir Khan. It is he who is fighting the guy with 3 KO's.
     
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    Warren took the blame, publicly. Did he blame others too? Yes.

    Yes, he got shut of Rubio...and rightly so.
     
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    Put Malignaggi and Katsidis in the same ring and then tell me who's in tougher tonight.
     
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    British teenager Amir Khan has secured a rematch with Mario Kindelan, the Cuban who beat him to an Olympic gold medal in Athens. Promoter Frank Warren has struck a deal with Amateur Boxing Association chiefs who are bringing the Cubans to Britain next month.
    The showdown will take place at Bolton's Reebok Stadium on 30 April.
    "This is the fight that Amir really wanted and is the one people want to see," Warren said.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/4369163.stm



    *******

    Warren promoted Khan brilliantly. Right from the very beginning, with the Kindelan fight.

     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    Harrison has a shiny medal to fall back on, and look what good that did him...

    Mitchell was a super ammy. ABA champ, in 2003. Since then, he has progressed about zero percent, because he was fed bum after bum

    Maybe he wasn't good enough. That's a possible, no doubt. But what chance do you have when you have thirty one fights and not ONE is a live body?

    My point is this. If he isn't good enough, it should have shown by now, Instead he gets iced in the biggest fight of his life in part because the guy he is fighting is at LEAST two levels above anything he has ever fought.

    In seven years.

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  15. Irish

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    Let's say Malignaggi beats Katsidis.

    Do you think Amir Khan would beat Katsidis?
     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    Ahh yes, the most corrupt match in the chequred history of British boxing. The match after which Kindelan 'defected' to the UK and took up a lucrative contract to work for the ABA.

    MTF :shit:
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Its about styles. Kat has the power to hospitalize Khan if he caught him, but Paulie couldnt dent my 8 month nephew's chin.

    But I think Paulie would clearly outbox Kat. Paulie has a much better chin and defense then Mitchell, and overall a better skill set.
     
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    Yes. Comfortably.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Dunno... but after tonight maybe he should Kat as a tune up for Maidana. Kat is a poor man's Maidana.
     
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    So what?

    Khan was well promoted.

    Warren handled him brilliantly.....basically erasing the stench of the Olympic Finals defeat, in a major sporting arena, no less, and delivering a world title having allowed him to feast on midgets, and get KO'd, along the way.

    And then Amir fucked off to America.
     
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    Mallinaggi wouldn't beat Katsidis.

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    The only person who should consider using Katsidis as a tune up is Floyd Mayweather.
     
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    Khan is alot more talented than Mitchell, no doubt
     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    Maidana has become so overrated it is beyond belief.

    This is the same guy who lost to Kotelnik. Who almost no-one thinks is any good.

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    Paulie with the form he had in the first Ndou fight, and the Diaz rematch would school Kat.

    Kat could beat the shitty Paulie from the Ndou rematch, and the Ndgojuo fight.
     
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    Kotelnik WAS a class fighter and one of the better 140 pounders in the world for at least half a decade.
     
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    Maidana has become overrated because the stammering twitching midget in LA warned Khan off fighting him. Thats the problem. I mean, when the best fighter ever in the history of forever doesn't want to fight you, you must be special, right?
     
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    Yep.
     
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    Who says Kotelnik isnt any good? Hell I'd pick him over Kat.

    Maidana is a true puncher! Kat, despite blowing away Mitchell tonight, isnt really a true puncher. He's heavy handed, but relies more on accumulation.

    I mean... do you honestly think that Escobedo cat would last the distance with Maidana?
     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    What stench? He came back from Athens a HERO in the UK- the 17 year old lad who almost beat the crafty old cuban.

    Stench my arse... :lol:

    He then embarked on an ITV tour of ABSOLUTE BUMS whilst idiots like McGuighan stated "he looks like Sugar Ray Leonard in there", fucking infuriating MILLIONS of supporters.

    Then Werren stung ITV and disappeared to PPV, where he regularly racked up sales of around 35,000. That wasn't missing an '0' BTW. It really was 35,000.

    Khan was so unpopular by the time Prescott iced him that the UK press and public actually LAUGHED at Amir.

    He is such a terrible PPV attraction that ITV were able to outbid Sky PPV to screen the fight tonight, because it wasn;t worth SKY's while sticking the money in to screen the fight.

    That's excellent promotion is that Irish...

    MTF :laughing:
     

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