Alistair Overheem before and after

Of course Overeem used roids. It would be ridiculous to claim otherwise. But my issue is with people seemingly forgetiting that a guy like Lesanr who it's even more obvious he roided, fights in the US and yet passes his test

 

Those tests are pretty much useless. Especially for MMA in the states...

 

I saw a before and after photo of Brock Lesnar of during the WWE and then in his first fight with Mir. It was night and day as far as muscle definition. People were even saying Brock looked fat in the UFC. No doubt in my mind it had everything to do with him getting off the juice.

 

The tests are through the athletic board of each state. One sport doesn't get a different test than MMA.

 

yeah combat sports then... useless remains.

 

you think he's absolutely clean now?

 

http://www.cagepotato.com/eff-haters-alistair-overeem-passes-his-drug-test

 

no, I think he has cleaned up a bunch of the stuff he was on probably no more anabolic sterroids, but do I think he doesn't do anything, PED's, HGH, etc? No. I am with you that I think in this world we live in today that over 90% of all world class athletes are using something. The athletes are so far ahead of the testing its rediculous. Unless all sports take on cycling's testing, it will stay that way too.

 

Good stuff, Azazel. Like BTG said, this is good for MMA.:bears:

 

I watched the Rogers fight again and Overeem looks smaller than he did in his fights in K-1

 

Cyclings testing just finds a lot of guys now. But they didn't clean the field not in the slightest.

 

Yeah he lost 7 pounds... observation of the month. Big ups to you two! :bears:

 

In the broadcasting they showed 242lbs but that musta been an archived date. I read 260lbs on a kickboxing forum for his fight against Hari, which is a year ago, though...

 

At the weigh in he was 254 for the Rogers fight

 

Yeah but i don't even know which Hari fight that is and how much it was for the Fujita fight... could be more and the 242 can't be true.

To me personally he just looked a lil less ripped. Still inhuman in my eyes... ::

 

What are we even debating here, by the way... ? ::

 

I think its "who has done more roids; Brock, Overeem, or Lyle Alzado?":dunno: