Manny agrees to testing.....

Dude.. This is clearly coming from Arum.

 

I'm just glad Pacquiao's done his part to make this fight happen.

 

It's funny. Almost everyone here seems to be in agreement that all the best fighters are on PEDs. And yet, many of the same people will claim that PBF is the best fighter in the world. And yet, hes not comfortable fighting all the guys out there? Is PBF having to find his own personal way to the top? Just watch PBF/N'dou. If PBF hadn't built his career with PEDs, he wouldn't have such respect for em. PBF is afraid of Pacquiao. Afraid. Believeit.

 

Nice try but no.

 

Loveland is on another bender

 

Roach is saying Mayweather doesn't move as he used to and has slowed down. That if Pacquaio hurts him like Mosley did, Mayweather will be stretched and the fight won't go to a decision.

I think one of the reasons mayweather says he doesn't watch his opponents is because he doesn't want to be surprised if they follow a different gameplan when they fight him.

Mayweather might not fight Pacquaio the same way he fought Mosley. Props to his VERSATILITY.

Mayweather has a size, strength and speed advantages. Pacquaio has agreed to testing terms. SIGN THE DOTTED LINE FLOYD!!

 

Ahhh,.. so your the one.. :crafty: ...I'd been wondering where that originated from.

 

Don't know about speed, but you are truly in agenda-driven denial if you can't even be honest enough to admit that PBF has strength as well as size advantages over Manny @ 147.

 

Size yes. Strength is possible, even likely. Speed I'm not so sure. Pac is very fleet of both hand and foot.

 

Castillo who fought Fraud, and sparred Pacquiao in preperations for his fight with Cotto, said that Pacquiao was stronger,.. he also said he was faster and hit harder,.. but, I think speed and power can be gauged quite easily from his recent performances. I did not highlight ^ "size" above,.. Floyd has a larger frame and longer reach,.. but that doesn't mean he's stronger than the raging chemical mutant. Unless the two go head to head through some strength drills like in the strong men competitions.. it's pretty hard for anybody to be so sure of who's stronger,.. but I will take the opinion of a fighter who's grappled both of them.

 

Yeah I think the overall speed element is pretty clear cut. With 'strength' ,..it's always a tougher gauge,..you would think that strength helps power considerably,.. we've seen plenty of speedy fighters with flashy punches who don't have anywhere near as devistating an effect as a punch thrown by a sloth like Kelly Pavlik,.. to me it seems Pedquiao has speed, strength and therefore immense power in abundance,.. aswell as................ just about everything else,... he's a suspiciously new fighter... If this was a strength debate, when Manny fought Marquez,.. I'd have presumed that Floyd is stronger, how dare he even think of picking on him,.................evidently, not anymore...not these days,..hell no,..

 

i think it is interesting how this debate goes.. .

IMO it is almost a mismatch.. FLoyd is going to RAPE Pac

 

Mayweather was mostly on his bike against Castillo. He never FELT Mayweather until the championship rounds and at the lightweight division. I think Castillo's statements stems from the way they both fought him.

As far as speed, Pacquaio punches more and in bunches. Mayweather counters with lightning fast speed and with accuracy. Mayweather has had better and faster foot and body movement than Pacquaio.

 

Despite all Mayweather's advantages, it is a very marketable fight because of Pacquaio's popularity and his recent amazing accomplishments against much bigger opponents that were slower than Pacquaio.

An EASY cool $75 million for Mayweather.

 

$75 million now?

 

Sure. Why not?

 

So if that is an insight to dismiss,.. what's a better one than a fighter who's been in the position to feel the physical strength from both of them?..

I honestly just cannot fathom, a man who hits this hard, being physically weaker than Mayweather,..there's got to be 'something' behind Pacquiao's punches, probably the same immense core strength that allows him to throw his brand new weight around so quickly and endlessly,...retaining the power all the way to the fights end,.. and yes,.. I wholeheartedly believe it aint natural,.. if we're talking about Pacquiao before his extraordinary rise up the divisions,.. I would have 'guessed' Mayweather was the stronger of the two.


Pacquiao does punch in bunches and retains lightning fast speed, he also springs half way across the ring off his feet in order to deliver it,.. overall, that retention of speed is to Pacquiao's advantage.

 

I think Pacquaio's explosive offense could come to a screaching halt with a defensive wizard like Floyd. Pacquaio can't come forward with such gusto with Mayweather waiting to pounce on every Pacquaio move.

Pacquaio gets frustrated by movers. Mayweather has excellent foot and body movement. If Pacquaio lounges at Mayweather he could be made to look amateurish.

 

As much as I want Pac to Knock PBF the fuck out I agree. I think PBF makes Pacman look amateurish in the ring. There is always a chance for Pac to land that 1 shot though!ray:

 

Power is not only a matter of physical strength. Holyfield does not even hit close to Tyson's level of power, but he moved him around the ring, and bullied him on the inside when they fought. Yet Tyson is one of the hardest punching heavys ever.

That being said I still think Floyd is the more physically stronger of the two, and you will see it if they ever fight. Mayweather seemed functionally stronger than Mosley who inarguably one of the strongest welters in the division.

Clottey may even be physically stronger than Manny, he just backed up due to his overly defensive style and Mannys workrate/power.

 

LOL.The way ya'll talking this fight is a waste of time.Pacquiao has zero chance.

 

Im starting to doubt this fight is ever going to happen to be honest.

 

The funny thing is it's the Pacquiao fans throwing the only a puncher's chance argument. :notallthere:

 

Mosley had his mouth open early...hard to impose his your strength when you're also fighting your lungs.

Mosley's a much more stationary target and a lot less predictable in the way he moves in the ring...easier to impose your stength on a fighter like that, even if he may be 'stronger' outside the ring.

I think the assumption that Mayweather's just going to get a read on Pacquiao after a couple rounds like he did Mosley, or even 3-4 like he did Judah, is a little optomistic.

 

Paquaio has very very very little chance

 

pacman has a stomach ulcer

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=Akfut0J1gQmihUIveO8c7wuUxLYF?slug=ap-pacquiao-ulcer

 

"Steroids can irritate the lining of the stomach and may cause a stomach ulcer..."

http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Canceri...atmenttypes/Supportivetherapies/Steroids.aspx

opcorn:

 

i just read that. macmillan are a cancer specialist here in the uk

 

thats for real

 

Unfortunately your right. But there is always that chance that Pac lands a bomb froma odd angle that PBF doesn't see. ray: