Were These Knockdowns, Or Were They Slips?

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  1. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Marquez against Barrera

    Barrera against Pacquiao

    Morales against Barrera

    Ali against Wepner

    Hagler against Roldan

    Mayweather against Judah

    Toney against Jones
     
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  2. Double L

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    Marquez went down hard from clean right

    Barrera went down

    Morales slipped

    Ali slipped

    Hagler slipped

    Mayweather touched the canvas after taking a punch

    Toney went down
     
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  3. Buddy Rydell

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    Ali didn't slip. Wepner stepped on his foot and hit him.
     
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    1. Barrera LEGITIMATELY Dropped Marquez...
    2. Pacquiao LEGITIMATELY Dropped Barrera, but the Earlier Knockdown (Scored AGAINST Pac) was Bogus...

    3. Morales WAS NOT Legitimately Dropped by Barrera...
    4. Wepner Hit Ali in the CHEST...Though Not Impressive, it's a LEGIT Knockdown...

    5. Hagler WAS NOT Legitimately Dropped by Roldan...
    6. Floyd Put his Glove Down to MAINTAIN Balance...LEGIT Knockdown...
    7. After Hitting Toney, Roy Jones' BODY Knocked Toney Off Balance, Stumbling Backwards into the Ropes...This Particular Instance STRADDLES the Line Perfectly, but REED Leans More Towards it NOT Being Legit...




    REED:kidcool:
     
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    I agree with most Double L's answers in that all were legit KD's except for Barrera-Morales and Hagler-Roldan. Ali-Wepner was legitimate... kinda like Holyfield-Tyson

    I will say, however, that I was ringside for Barrera-Morales and in that moment I would have ruled that a KD as well, at the time it looked like Morales was weak to me and went down as a result of accumulation and fatigue from getting punched.

    How about this one for people who have seen he fight: Oscar Bonavena vs. George Chuvalo. Chuvalo goes down twice and both times are ruled slips, and while they aren't the cleanest KD's you will ever see, I believe both should have been ruled as legitimate KDs. Agree/Disagree? Thoughts?
     
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    You're the board's subject matter expert on such knockdowns.

    :bears:
     
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    Agreed completely. :kidcool:
     
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    Think I agree with every single one of those.
     
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    Same difference. He slipped on Wepner's foot. :lol:
     
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    How about Akinwande Lewis ?
     
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    That's a good one. It was weird and I don't think Lewis was in any trouble, but I guess you could call it a knockdown. I remember Mills Lane saying he should have called it a KD (he thought it was legit upon review) because it would possibly have given Akinwande some confidence to come out of his shell and stop holding.
     
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    The Campbell Knockdown lately vs Ortiz was a blatant slip
     
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  13. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Marquez - KNOCKDOWN

    Barrera - SLIP

    Morales - KNOCKDOWN

    Ali - KNOCKDOWN

    Hagler - SLIP

    Mayweather - KNOCKDOWN

    Toney - SLIP
     
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