How can anyone defend David Haye after this?

harrison blows

 

which take shis cowardice to a lower level.

 

It's not cowardice. It's called negotiating. The Klitschkos give "no one" a 50-50 split and no options. And they are giving ground and bending over backwards because they "need" Haye.

He doesn't need them. Vitali is almost 40. Wlad has fought just about everyone once already.

Haye has a "lot" of options. He can fight Tomasz Adamek in the U.S. and HBO would love it -- and it would probably be a helluva fight. He can fight Harrison in England and it would be the biggest fight there since Lewis-Bruno. He can fight his mandatory Chagaev. He can fight Povetkin if he and Wlad don't fight. Haye-Povetkin would be very good.

He can stretch those fights out for two years. How old will Vitali be by then? Who will he and Wlad have to fight during that time? Vitali's got the winner of the Solis-Valuev eliminator. But Haye and Solis fought in the amatuers. Haye could fight him, too. They have a history.

That's the thing. Haye is kind of chinny but he's got a big punch. His fights are going to be more entertaining than the Klitschkos because there won't be the huge size difference.

The longer this stretches out, the more defenses and entertaining fights Haye's in, the worse it gets for the Klitschkos. "They" (both of them) need Haye.

They have given him all the power because neither one of them has ever stepped up and proclaimed himself the best fighter in the world who can beat everyone. Instead, they wanted to be "co-champs."

 

That's a very elaborate ducking plan you have lined out for Haye.

 

That's just it. The quieter Haye is, and the more he ignores the Klitschkos, the lower their "demands" are.

He's gotten them down to 50-50 and no options ... that's a far cry from the contract they had him sign last year.

That's not ducking, that's effective negotiating. Haye knows the Kltischkos have screwed themselves and handed him all the control ... and he's going to take full advantage.

What's it going to come down to a year from now, when Haye's got a couple more knockout defenses under his belt ... and HBO and Golden Boy produce a 24/7 for Haye-Adamek ... and the Klitschkos are left with no one to fight ... because fighters think they'll have a better shot beating Haye than the brothers?

They can bark as loud as they want, but the purse split just keeps moving in Haye's favor the longer this goes on. And they know it. They've screwed themselves.

 

It's boring me haye keeping quiet - hurry the fuck up and fight the klitschko's David :warning: ::

 

I think you have cemented your legacy as the only Haye sack swinger on this site. What you have posted in this thread is ridiculous at best and most of it makes no sense what so ever.

 

Yeah but you've failed to factor in the very strong likelihood that Haye will lose to one or more of the guys you've mentioned (e.g. Adamek, Chagaev, Povetkin). If that happens, he'd be lucky to get 20%, if he even wants to fight them after losing to a lesser fighter. Plus, Haye can lose to either Klit, collect his 50%, and still be a draw against any one of the guys you mentioned. But if he loses to one of them, and not a Klit?

So all of the cards are certainly not with Haye. I'd say 50/50 is generous to Haye, all things considered.

Whereas either Klit can take on alternate opponents and be confident they will prevail, Haye simply can't. He's not that good.

 

Adamek's talked about interest in fighting Haye or one of the Klitschko's, so is there something you're basing the talk of Haye-Adamek on as thought it's almost a sure thing?

24/7 would be a big step up in commitment to Haye from HBO, given that they've yet to even shown a Haye fight on their network...and HBO brought Adamek in to fight Arreola, not the other way around.

Haye-Harrison may be a big fight in England, but it's not going to move the meter in the States.

Solis got the better of Haye in the amateurs...that would be an intriguing fight, but you think that's a fight Haye's gonna take if he's trying to wait out a Klitschko?

 

Haye would lose to Adamek, in my opinion.

I think he would win against Chagaev, and the Povetkin fight could go either way.

He'd get destroyed by Wlad and Vitali would toy with him the entire fight.

 

A Haye-Adamek 24/7 :::::laughing::laughing:!!

 

I actually think the Haye v. Adamek would be a great fight. I think they're both evenly matched, and I'd love to see that fight.

 

The UK has two chinless, ducking phonies leading thier pack.

 

Wordsmithing is what Dubblechin is engaging in.

As Haye struggles to do 20,000 tickets in England, Vitali is doing 60,000 {or 40,000, if you let Maxboxing tell you} in football stadia in Germany.

Notice how Haye's determination to fight one of the Klitschkos is decreasing in direct proportion to the increase in the strength of his bargaining position.

The easier it becomes to make the fight on better terms for Haye, the less Haye wants to make it.

Translation: Haye is happy milking the WBA title for all it is worth, codding the fans with his spiel, all the while refusing to live in England or train in England, yet utterly dependent on English TV and the English public for his financial survival.

The lad is a circus act, I said it from day one, his entire plan is to make X amount of $ and then fuck off. This business with Harrison is a joke. Booth basically says it himself, and then goes and makes the fight anyways.

 

Not far off mate. Since winning his bauble, Haye has become an A1 celebrity in the UK, with numerous media appearances lauding him as the 'world HW champion'.

In the eyes of most casual, UK fans, Haye is exactly that.

You can almost see the realisation is his eyes with each passing day that if he stays in the UK and keeps his belt, he'll make absolutely millions, so that fight with a Klit, which wouldn't mean much to any of his new found 'fans' anyway, becomes a less and less attractive prospect. So suddenly clowns like Harrison become viable alternatives because people in the UK know him and dislike him, so will enjoy watching him get stretched.

Winning that WBA bauble is the best thing Haye has ever done in business terms but is the single worst thing he could have done in terms of his boxing.

MTF

 

The same folks also loved Frank Bruno over Lemmon Lewis.

Not much to brag about there.

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No-one is bragging about it. To 'hardcore' British boxing fans like myself, it's become frankly embarassing.

MTF

 

It isn't the fight I find hilarious it's the thought of them doing a 24/7 on a couple of the most unknown fighters in the world. Haye may be popular in England but as far as I know HBO doesn't reach that far.

 

I don't think Haye is as unknown as you make him out to be. i live in Quebec and some of my friends who don't watch boxing at all ( or only the very big local fights ) ask me about him ( thought they don't know is name, they refer to him as the puncher from England ).

 

Well that's your friends who obviously seem to follow boxing to an extent. I'm positively certain there aren't enough people in America who know either Haye or Adamek where it would be beneficial for HBO to make a 24/7 around them. To tell you the truth I couldn't even pick Adamek out of a crowd.

 

He's the white guy.

 

Part of what Haye is doing is smart and acceptable- waiting for a Klitschko to get old, or lose, and then trying to step in, whilst making $ with his WBA belt. The rest of it is pure BS, as the guy has as much intention as making a name for himself in the history books as a great heavyweight as I do.:shit:

 

Which means he is not well known.

 

"Harrison, who has vacated the European heavyweight title, is trying to fill the void created by the failure of the Klitschko brothers to strike a deal with David Haye". - Mguigan

:shit::shit::shit::shit: utterly pathetic