Vitaly vs Valuev??

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  1. Joe King

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    It's amazing how brave fighters get when they don't have a title. I would still like to see this matchup. I believe Vitaly KTFO's Valuev in 5 rounds or less but it would be interesting to see how he handles fighting a bigger fighter for once.
     
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    I think the Viali I remember completely outclasses and stops the circus act known as Valuev. However I'm not sure how healthy or how much left Vitali has. I still think he would win because Valuev doesn't have a clue, but this one definitely has a chance of being a stinker based on Vitali's health.

    What would have been a bit more interesting would have been to see how Wladimir did against such an intimidating guy like Valuev.
     
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  3. Azazel

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    It won't happen, Vitaly is more than happy facing guy's like Sosnowsky of Kevin Johnson. Why pay Valuev 2,5 millions for a meaningfull fight when he can pay 1 million to some random journeyman for an easy fight
     
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    I thought Holyfield beat Valuev. Lets not pretend this would be a legitimate fight.
     
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    No Valuev fight ever is legitimate IMO. The dude is a freak show and nothing more. I can't believe people even take the guy seriously much less tune in to his fights.
     
  6. Joe King

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    It's a legitimate fight for Valuev, not Vitaly. There are no heavyweights that can challenge him or Wlad.
     
  7. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    It's sad when people compare Valuev to Carnera. Carnera was so, so much better than Valuev. For that matter, Carnera was not terribly far behind the perenially over-rated Klitschko.

    Valuev, though, is absolutely the worst figure in the sport.
     
  8. Irish

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    I guess Carnera vs Lewis is a close fight then, right?:dunno::dunno:
     
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    :lol: No.

    Klitschko and Carnera should never be compared.
     
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    I think Valuev is going to give Vitali more trouble than people think. If Valuev can get off on his jab and find some kind of rhythm AND makes use of his size and clinches Vitali at any and every opportunity and leans all his weight on him, this could be interesting if it goes into the later rounds.
     
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    This fight would be better.

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    It might be interesting, but it could never be as interesting as Luis "Wild Steaks of Argentina" Moreno versus Louie "Tony Two Gunz" LaStrunza down at the old Palooka Palladium on 25th and Nowhere back in the day......those were the days, eh? When an acromegalic bum with the sophistication of an eggtimer could be champeen. :bangh::bangh: :rolleyes:
     
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    Lol that's funny. Vitali will beat him down easier than he did Williams. Valuev is a giant clown.
     
  17. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    Carnera, for mine, has this given, accepted reputation for being some sort of Hall of Fame punching bag of incompetence which isn't especially accurate --- between the fixes of his early career (& I am not one who believes he beat Sharkey with connections) & his obvious limitations, even though he was far, far removed from being a great fighter, he had some ability. A pretty strong jab linked with his enormous strength in the clinch, a fairly hefty wallop from either the right or left side, & a good helping of both heart & conditioning.

    He was heavily-flawed (as is Vitali), & his defense was just atrocious, really. When you combined the above elements with his size, though, it wasn't quite as bad as people make out. He absolutely was streets ahead of Valuev, & while I don't think he was as good as Vitali, who makes fewer in-ring errors, & has a few additional edges over Carnera, I don't see this dramatic difference, either. I see a lot of garbage which makes Klitschko look fantastic by comparison, & by comparison only.

    As for Klitschko, I can accept his little brother as a very good (not great) fighter, yes, but big brother is absurdly over-estimated.
     
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    Pacquiao by decision.

    Oh and this, Vitali wins every round easily.
     
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    As I said, dogma isn't easy to break down.
     
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    No you just have no clue what you're talking about... Vitali flawed like Carnera... :atu:
     
  22. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    I didn't say that. I said both were heavily-flawed. They are, too. Carnera's opposition makes Klitschko's look like the Z-graders they are.
     
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    You are making the common mistake of assuming how good a fighter should be based on how he looks, instead of actually watching what he does. Usually these are the same thing but not always.

    Carnera's and Vitali's boxing stance and balance can look the same at times. The difference is, though, that Vitali hardly gets hit, while Carnera got hit easily by everyone. That is what it comes down to. Also Vitali was the faster fighter and had the much better (if unique) footwork, Simply put, they are not in the same class.

    This is the same mistake people made watching young Cassius Clay. He was also very "flawed" and "got by" opponents with his physical abilities only
     
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    Yeah, I used to share Ramone's opinion of Vitali. He's so ugly in there.

    Then 2003 came and I smartened up. Vitali was good, and better than Wlad.
     
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    Valuev has no chance against either Klitschko.


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    The "offer" Valuev is ready to accept is an old one from 8 months ago for a stadium fight. It's no longer on the table. According to the response from K2 anyway.
     

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