The Official Fightbeat MMA Top 5 P4P Rankings for July 2010

The votes are in. First place votes are in parenthesis...

1. Anderson Silva: 36 (4)

2. Georges St. Pierre: 33 (3)

3. Fedor Emeilienko: 23 (1)

4. Jose Aldo: 9

5. Maurcio 'Shogun' Rua: 7


Others receiving votes...

B.J. Penn (6), Jake Sheilds (2), John Fitch (1), Lyoto Machida (1), Nick Diaz (1), Christiane 'Cyborg' Santos

Submitting Votes were Trplsec, jarhead, Bob N Weave, REEDsART, Haymaker, Beyond the Grave, Godfather and TFK.



TFK

 

Alright, which one of you put Cyborg on there? Ridiculous.

 

That would be me. BJ is coming off a loss to Edgar and got handled by GSP not long ago. Shogun's loss to Griffin and his terrible outing against Coleman are still fresh in my mind. Machida is coming off a brutal KO. I don't see Fitch, Shields or Diaz as top 5 fighters.

That left me with Cyborg who has dominated everyone she's faced. You can bring up the quality of her competition, but it is what it is, she's been as dominant over the past few years as any fighter on this list.

TFK

 

Cyborg doesn't count. She's a woman, they are grouped seperately. I understand your viewpoint, but she is number 1 p4p for women.

 

Oh, I didn't realize you made the rules for my P4P list. Thanks for letting me know.


TFK

 

It's rather basic. Men and women can't fight each other so they are separate in grouping. For boxing and MMA. The barometers are completely different. Same reason you won't see an Anne Wolfe being on a p4p boxing list . It's not logical.

 

TFK, what does it say about the state of cage fighting that you have a woman in your top 5, pound for pound?

 

145 pounders also don't find 265 pounders, unless it's some hokey Japanese freak show. Obviously Fedor isn't gonna fight Jose Aldo, but they're both on the list.

TFK

 

Yeah, it's pretty straight forward.

 

That women's MMA is on the rise, and that the multitude of skills needed to be succesful at MMA makes it extremely hard for any one fighter to stay dominant for a long time.

It's part of the beauty of the sport.

TFK

 

Yeah, agreed. There are hardly any good male fighters.

A woman in the top 5. :laughing:

 

That's not what I said.


TFK

 

You don't have to say anything. Rating a woman in your top 5, pound for pound, says it all for you.

 

A 145 can fight a 155 though. And Silva came up from 170 to fighting 205ers and maybe HW in the future. Santos won't be able to fight anyone period except other bad women.

 

Is she an MMA fighter? Is this an MMA poll?

TFK

 

Yeah Shogun would be an easy pick for 5 before he starts his run to the top. If Cyborg is rated in the top 5, you may as well rate her number 1 considering she's not going to lose, ever.

 

Please tell me in what sport, women and men are ranked together? One..

 

MMA.


TFK

 

Nope.

Try again.

 

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By the way, hats off to the MMA Expert that ranked Shields and Diaz. Shield is completely overlooked.

Santos is a good call. I didn't even consider her.

 

Yup.


TFK

 

My list went like this....

1. GSP
2. Silva
3. Fedor
4. Aldo
5. Cyborg


TFK

 

agREED...

It CHEAPENS the Rankings...Cyborg is "Dominating" the BARREN WASTELAND Known as Women's MMA...& She Usually has a Size ADVANTAGE to Boot..."Lb for Lb", REED's Ass...So if a MIDGET Dominates Other MIDGETS w/Proficiency, will that Get him on a Lb for Lb List Too???...



REED:shit:

 

Is there even ONE Man in MMA that Cyborg Could BEAT???...



REED::

 

Midgets?


Really?


TFK

 

TFK

 

Why Not???...

U're Heaping Praise for "Dominating" WOMEN...U Should Call it the "Ike Turner" Award...There ISN'T a World Class Male MMAist on the Planet, that COULDN'T Beat Cyborg in a Fight, Dude...

REED Didn't Know this was a "Lb for Lb, Gender for Gender" List...



REED::

 

And there isn't a World Class 145 pounder that can beat Fedor in a fight, but yet Aldo is on the list.

TFK

 

The 1st Time Shamrock HIT Cyborg Flush, Fights Over...She's Got POOR Defense, so it'd Only B a Matter of Time Before Shamrock CLOCKED her Ass...



REED:hammert: