HBO DUMPS THE KLITSCHKO's

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  1. Beyond the Grave

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    HBO dumps Klitschkos [​IMG]

    HBO Sports President Ross Greenburg has again ripped the Klitschko brothers. IBF/WBO/IBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko (54-3, 48 KOs) and WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko (40-2, 38 KOs) have both have previously fought on the network numerous times and routinely fill huge soccer stadiums when they fight, but Greenburg says there is no longer any interest in them from HBO.

    “I’m really souring on the heavyweights,†Greenburg was quoted as saying strangely on ESPN’s website, rather than that of his own network. “There doesn’t seem to be any interest in the U.S. and there doesn’t seem to be any heavyweights besides David Haye who would have any juice in challenging the Klitschkos. We’re out of the heavyweight division. We’re not playing in that sandbox right now. It doesn’t make any sense for us. The fights happen over there [in Europe], they’re on tape delay. There is just very little interest in this country.â€

    Greenburg added that HBO definitely will not televise Wladimir Klitschko against unbeaten Teddy Atlas-trained Olympic gold medal winner Alexander Povetkin (19-0, 14 KOs), nor Vitali Klitschko’s next fight unless the opponent is David Haye or Tomacz Adamek. Previously Greenburg had famously stated that the American public can’t tell which brother is which.
     
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    The cute little thing in my avy is laughing at this shit.
     
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    Who is she? She's fairly fine.
     
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    Like they need HBO. They dumped HBO. :lol::lol:
     
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    I don't think Ive watched any of their fights since Wlad-Peter. Or Vitali-Sanders whichever was more recent
     
  7. Irish

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    Guess who else dumped the Klitschkos? Gumbah Lou DiBella, the Staten Island Dumbfella.

    Such heights his career has reached since then. Scraping Jermaine off the canvas on multiple occasions.....who the froch is froch....

    Translation of Hymie Greenburgs article: "Klitschkos fight who they want and when. We don't have the clout to hang with them since the downturn in the world economy. With them being able to sell 65,000 tickets in a country that is probably about to win the World Cup, the old US of A is not relevant enough. Haye is Gaye and won't fight a big enough name to attract attention in the States anyways. We have massive fights like Mora vs Mosley and WADA vs Pacquaio so who gives a fuck"
     
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    Wlad vs Brock was on HBO and was ended with one big right.

    Vitali ALWAYS was in entertaining fights when he was in the States- Lewis, Johnson, Sanders, Williams were all very good value for money.
     
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    Just found out how much the celtic Irish and Welsh are BASQUE RATS!!!!...:crafty: ,..ho ho ho you dago wop greaseball bastard! Daz makes you me half brudda, me mothers a med 'bedouin' too :crafty:, though I cant match ya norse horned albino attire, I gots half box headed slavic ta deal with,.. As to the question, I think the best move for Americans, and them 'old school' british and Australians, is to have the division segregated and split, make up a new heavyweight title, get the gimps to spin it's legitimacey, and keep them colour-line whitey racist russiany men away from it, and elect former desireable american sports stars in NFL and basketball to guard it carefully so that we can create an 'old school' haven to keep boxing right. :crafty:
     
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    More Galicia than the Basque country......that said, down with this kind of thing, down with it. Dump the Klitschkos, maybe people will forget who they are. Germany is nothing, Landon Donovan is where it is at :nono:
     
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    :crafty: Well, look at the Basque country and Spain, then have a look at Northern and Southern Ireland,.. same rock throwin', bomb plantin', primitive tribal mindset,.. with both having northern areas of segregation,.. they didn't even need to do DNA tests to prove they were identical with the exception of a viking cock thrown in here and there for good measure.
     
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    can't even throw them on BAD, huh?
    and Haye (maybe) and Adamek (are you fucking kidding me?) are opponents they will accept, but not Povetkin???
    Greenburg ought to be replaced with someone who can make money off of the klitschkos.
    I hope Showtime pounces on this and makes a ton of money: "Two good for our competition"
     
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    IMO the blame goes to the american society for turning two generations of fatso heavyweight boxers into contenders. You couldn't call a porky pig an athlete much less a contender in the old days. Today's american heavyweights suck so much because they are just regular fat joe's with beer bellies pretending to pass as boxers. And any food loving lazy boxer can let his body balloon into whale proportions knowing he can still have a career (and a possible title shot!) in the heavyweight rankings. At least the Klitchskos bother to train properly to look athletic and in the proccess fatso americans can't stand a chance against them. We need a HW saviour. A new Mike Tyson or new Ali who can clean this pathetic division of pure lard pretenders.
     
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    Greenberg has proven over and over again he doesn't give two shits about boxing.

    It's the reason Showtime wipes their asses all over HBO the last several years, despite having about half the budget.

    Now, if HBO tells us they're dumping the Klitschko's because they want to start buying fights, instead of fighters like Showtime.........I'd go along with that.

    For some reason I think it has more to do with the curious lack of "Golden Boy Productions" backing the brothers in all their promotions. :shit:
     
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    Vitali's pretty good to watch in his way but he's always fighting half arsed jiggly lard yards. Bottom line, their fights just aren't really worth tuning in for.
     
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    right. they turned down free money.:nono:
     
  17. Mitchell Kane

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    Yeah, that was kinda my guess...GBP is associated with Haye and that's the name he mentions as having 'juice'.

    The quote he gives is curious, considering HBO hasn't even televised a David Haye fight...exactly where are we to find the evidence of this elusive Haye 'juice' stateside?

    Vitali-Arreola did over 2 million viewers, and I thought I'd read somewhere it was the highest rated HBO WCB show they had last year...or at least up til that point.

    Is this HBO's stance on wanting a Klitschko-Haye fight?
     
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    If HBO's pull was so great, it would seem to reason Vitali would have more than one fight in the US since his return, and Wlad would have more than just two fights in the time since he won the title from Byrd four years ago.
     
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    This is the bottom line. If the numbers for Klitschko mis-matches are down, then why not replace them with a lower weight matchup that will do better numbers? I have no problem with this. And if a Haye-type fight comes along, where it appears the draw is there in the US market, fine. Get that fight.

    BUT... if the Klit appearances did respectable numbers on HBO, and there were no other unusual prohibitive circumstances or demands... then this is bullshit. People (like me) who buy HBO would like to determine what we want to see, thank you. It is irrelevant to me whether or not Greenburg or Jim Lampley or any other shmumpf at HBO has a dislike for this fighter or that. Tough.

    With regard to the Klits, I have little interest in seeing most of their fights since they are almost guaranteed to be boring, one-sided affairs. However, the combining of a live event with a tape delay of a Klit fight seems to be a good compromise, as a multi-fight card usually has a better chance of being entertaining even if one of the fights is flat. If the numbers are there, I see no reason other than some sort of personal grudge not to continue that paradigm regarding the heavyweight champ(s) of the world.
     
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    Well, I think Klitschko-Arreola was paired with the Mayweather-Marquez replay...so the numbers aren't only reflective of the Klitschko fight...but that's the only US-based fight there is to judge Vitali on since his return...and supposedly the number of viewers increased for the Klitschko-Arreola fight (according to John Chavez).

    9/26/2009 - Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Marquez (replay) - 1.343 million viewers
    9/26/2009 - Vitali Klitschko vs. Chris Arreola (live) - 2.124 million viewers

    http://www.theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=1095
     
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    Of course they would take the free money, but they won´t let HBO dictate what, where and when a fight has to take place. They determine the time and place, not HBO. They get more money from German TV alone. They have a bigger live gate. They get better endorsement deals, because they have a better timeslot for all the European countries, plus the TV rights. HBO, a small American Pay-TV outlet has no control over the Klitschkos whatsoever and it pisses them off.
     
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    Yeah. In fact, Greenburg actually comes across as a bit of a bystander on some of the fights/fighters he was discussing in the interview with Rafael.

    On HBO's interest in Mosley-Berto (not Mosley-Mora):

    On wanting to make Martinez-Williams II:

    On Juan Manuel Lopez fighting on showtime:

    On the Klitschko's fighting in Europe:

    On Miguel Cotto:

     
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    Yeah, I got no problem with this at all. It seems too many boxers are starting to become too safety conscious and not as tough as fighters from the past and the Klitchko's are no different. Let their biased home town fans watch them peck their way to fucking decisions against guys they should be emphatically KOing. I'd rather not even have the option to watch them because if I did, I might actually watch the boring shit and regret it later.

    That said the future of boxing does not look very bright at all I'm sorry to say.
     
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    the klitschkos have received plenty of money from home boys only for fights where, when and versus they wanted, on tape delay.
     
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    doesnt really prove much other than that most already saw the mayweather jr marquez fight or heard what a mismatch it was
     
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    Horseshit.

    If Klitschko had such a bad rep in the first place then surely people would have known about it and declined to tune in in such numbers.

    Now, if you had said that the deluded Maxboxicans tuned in to see Arreola turn Vitali into Chicken Kiev, and then eat him, yeah, sure, I could see that.

    But you cannot dismiss the fact that over 2 million tuned in to see the fight- that 2 million had fuck all to do with Floyd Mayweather or peoples perception of Floyd Mayweather.
     
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    Thats what home town fans do. Show bias? Where the fuck you been?

    Klitschkos have 2 decisions in their last 10 fights. If even. You want a guy who get's safe decision wins with all the dice loaded in his favour? Floyd Mayweather. The face of HBO.

    Since 2004, the Klitschkos have, between them, lost once, and won 4 fights of a "decision" nature. Wladimirs: Decision wins over Ibragimov and Peters, and a Tech Dec over Williamson, Vitali vs the running yank bitch Johnson}

    Sam Peter looked "Pecked" to you? Substitute "pecked" for "bludgeoned" and you begin to make an argument. Danny Williams? Pecked? Yes. Pecked into the back of an Ambulance.

    Are you telling me that Chambers and Sosnowski were not emphatically KO'd? Draped over the ropes and requiring immediate assistance from their corners?

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    Ahh, I wouldnt bother giving examples, it's on the tip of everybodies tongue, I mean usually when you name the great american hero Bernard Hopkins you are bound for an immediate contradiction,..when it comes to just about everything.
    You know what the real reason for the hate is, I know what it is, they all know what it is,.. but they're never gunna just bust out and say it.
    :stir: ...a bit like you when it comes to right-wing values and the issue of drug testing,.. ulterior, ulterior,. 'lawyerisms' 'politicisms' .. :crafty:
     
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    Which no longer exists? The mansion and the harem or the obligation to entertain?

    Klitschkos take on 60,000+ at their shows. Yet this phenomenal attendance is explained away by snide and glib references to "bias"

    And the fans who came out to watch Julio Cesar Chavez fight guys like Greg Haugen...they were all objective sorts, were they?:laughing:

    The simple reality is that Europe has the fighters, the fan base, the population and the system to make big open-arena fights a reality.

    HBO is using a formula of "undefeated" and PPV to make their money, and has the temerity to claim that televising the Klitschko's is a no-go.

    Floyd Mayweather had people leaving early when he fought Baldomir. :shit: He refused to take a 2nd weigh-in for the fight with Marquez and financially obfuscated the pre-agreed limits, allowing him to basically weigh 160 by fight time...and still only get a decision against a guy who was fighting 2 divisions NORTH of his best, and for the first time.

    The bottom line is that the USA is not the center of affairs any longer, and long may that continue.
     

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