PPV: Marquez-Diaz II, Jacobs-Pirog, Guerrero-Casamayor, Linares-Juarez

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  1. Mitchell Kane

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    Opinions on the card?

    On Schaefer's comments on the undercard, fans, or his expectations of the pay per view numbers?

    Is the main event/undercard strong enough for you to buy it?
     
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  2. Neil

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    honestly Ive never heard of pirog. if he is a legitimate test for jacobs then that is an ok bout, casamayor -guerrero has foul fest written all over it, and juarez is not worth paying for.
     
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    Pirog is a legitimate test for sure IMO, overall its a very nice card and justifies PPV although the main event doesnt excite me very much
     
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    very good card, but should be free on HBO
     
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    Not PPV material....
     
  6. steve_dave

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    It's a pretty nice card with no legit PPV headliner.

    Schaefer is being a douche. This card isn't going to sell very well and he knows it. He'll point to the shitty numbers the next time he tries to justify a shitty undercard.
     
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    I like the card a lot, and seeing as sky sports are showing it over here...i have no qualms.

    Cards like this - with more than one, high class competitive bout - have been too few and far between
     
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    if guerrero were fighting linares and you had another decent matchup then it would be a lot better. casamayor(at this point) and juarez have no business on a premium network or ppv.
     
  9. Double L

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    Schaefer once again insults the very fans who make his crummy operation possible. This is not a good card! This card is par for the course. And how dare Schaefer act like he's going out on a limb for us? Acting like he's doing us a favor. Fuck him. I'll watch Diaz/Marquez II a week later, and be confident not one of the under-card fights will be worth a damn.
     
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    to me, 90% of the fights that nowadays are on PPV wouldn't have been on PPV as recently as 10 years ago

    its a joke

    the only way to stop it is to not buy these PPVs

    I havent purchased a PPV since DLH/Mayweather

    The only fight I'd reluctantly shell out the 50 bucks for is Mayweather/Pacman

    other than that? not a fucking chance
     
  11. Double L

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    And yet you have an opinion on Chavez Jr.? How?
     
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    aah, I see... it is only possible to see a boxing match as it happens on PPV... after that, it disappears forever into a black hole

    do you ever think before you post?
     
  13. Mitchell Kane

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    You mean to tell me a fight involving a guy with (what in most people's minds is) three consecutive losses, including one to his upcoming opponent...isn't a legit PPV headliner?

    Surely you jest.
     
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    I think Jacobs-Pirog is a solid fight...BAD level.

    Agree that the Casa-Ghost fight looks like a good candidate for a foul fest...the over-under on the first headbutt to draw blood might be pretty low.

    The frequency of fouls, both noticed and unnoticed by the referee, might make for a good drinking game.

    It might end up being an interesting test of wills, though. Hopefully it's not stopped because of foul-induced blood.

    Agree with the notion that Rocky Juarez is basically undercard filler for GBP, but I am a little interested in seeing Linares, two fights removed from his knockout loss, and I guess Juarez can be useful in a trial horse-type role, although his penchant for out-of-shape-David-Tua-'follow-the-leader'-like performances are always of cause for reservation.
     
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    It's a really good card except for the main event ironically. Who wants to see the baby heifer fight? I would love to see Casa knockout the Guerrero:eek:ld:. I want to see Linares doing his thing and Jacobs is a beast that needs as much exposure as possible. Putting him in against another undefeated contender who looks pretty good will make for a fun card.
     
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    If you change hatton's name for diaz. That would be a good fight top to bottom.
     
  17. Double L

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    Even Hatton/Diaz would be more compelling in the sense we don't know who's going to win.

    Still, I'd rather see JMM. But I agree, it'd be more interesting to see how JMM handled the chaos of Hatton.
     
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    maybe you dont know who would win, but i know hatton would beat the dogshit out of "the scholar".
     
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    the undercard is ok, but not really good either. Cassamayor is shot, and he shouldn't be much of a challenge for even a guy as ordinary as Guerrero, garbage matchup. Pirog-Jacobs, could be decent but I don't know who Pirog is and barely know who Jacobs is too, Linarez-Juarez is a solid matchup but let's not kid ourselves, both are pretty much nobodies. And worst of all, it's another midget card, so they can get ''name'' fighters without paying much. No wonder MMA is taking over boxing when boxing keeps showcasing midgets and MMA real alphas
     
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    the first fight inwhich marquez whipped diaz was more enjoyable than 99% of MMA fights Ive seen.
     
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    no doubt, and while I love MMA I find boxing even more enjoyable, but that's not the point I was trying to make at all.
     
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    Exactly, and the undercard isn't really good either imo.
     
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    I guess most people agree that the undercard is as solid as it gets. But still not strong enough to cover the fact that the main event is not PPV worthy. The undercard would be amazing for Cotto/Pac or PBF/Mosley even a Clotty/Pac during the time. But still don't change the fact that Casamayor got old years ago and Juarez has not done anything since barrera/juarez 1 to make you think he will be a contender. Pirog/jacobs is a great opener.You could probably make a case for this PPV if Marquez/diaz was fighting there first fight at 135.
     
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    I know who would win. Hatton KO's him. JMM is a great fighter. But he does not belong at 140. With his skill he would give Hatton a boxing lesson but will get cought eventually. Diaz nearly knock him out with his light punches. Floyd couldn't get the job done cause he was just playing safty first. What makes this PPV work is the fact that people want to see what hatton has left after the Pacquaio beating.
     
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    As a boxing card, it's solid, but this is the problem with the price of ppv these days...$50 for a card with no pay per view headliner and no must-see fight?

    Maybe Schaefer's relatively new to the sport, but there's plenty fans around that remember it wasn't all that long ago when a card like this could've been viewed for a lot less than that.

    $50 for a set-up fight as the main event.
     
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    I've enjoyed most Pirog fights, he's an odd, somewhat contradictory mix of styles, his stance is like that of a counter-puncher, but he's a high-volume pressure fighter,.. he's passed the test with every opponent to date,... however,.. the most difficult challenge for any boxer is speed,.. and Jacobs has superior speed,... this might play out like Dawson-Adamek, exciting prospect, but zero game-plan to deal with handspeed, and suddenly he looks like an exposed bum. Pirog could go down that same route,.. or maybe the sustaining pressure will effect Jacobs,..I don't know, it's a good fight, but I think making Jacobs the favourite is logical enough for now.
     
  28. Barristan

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    My thoughts exactly
     
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    I bet Diaz wins and PBF fights him next.
     
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    :giggle:
     

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