Zab Judah's presence in the 140 lb. division

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Dog Jones, Jul 17, 2010.

?

Who does Zab beat?

  1. Tim Bradley (WBO champ)

    21.4%
  2. Devon Alexander (WBC/IBF champ)

    14.3%
  3. Amir Khan (WBA champ)

    42.9%
  4. Paulie Malignaggi

    71.4%
  5. Manny Pacquiao (RING/linear champ)

    7.1%
  6. Juan Urango

    28.6%
  7. He beats nobody on this list

    28.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    14,645
    Likes Received:
    1,299
    After that KO of Jose Armando Santa Cruz, how does Zab do against the elite of the 140 lb. division?
     
  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    55,613
    Likes Received:
    13,233
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    The only one of the list I'd give him no chance with is Manny. He'd be a live underdog vs Bradley and Alexander, though at this point he prob loses to both. He'd also have a very legit chance at KOing the Con man if he connects.

    He'd always beat Paulie, and Urango.
     
  3. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2006
    Messages:
    11,894
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'd like to see a fight with him and Alexander.
     
  4. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,284
    Likes Received:
    5,130
    Bradley?

    No way Zab beats Bradley unless he quick flashes a few rounds and gets an accidental head butt type stoppage where it goes to the cards.

    "Prime" Judah (whatever that is) would get beaten down by Bradley as well.
     
  5. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2003
    Messages:
    7,788
    Likes Received:
    0
    Home Page:
    judah looked good tonight against a no-chin lightweight who was never really good to begin with.

    i think he beats urango and paulie, but that's not even a sure thing.

    bradley beats him down and alexander outpoints him.
     
  6. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,376
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    I just want him to go away forever
     
  7. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Messages:
    37,419
    Likes Received:
    4,004
    Occupation:
    The Cal Ripken of Alcoholism
    prime judah was getting all he could handle from bradley (who had yet to turn pro)
     
  8. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    70,701
    Likes Received:
    5,918
    Occupation:
    Involved in hyperbole
    Location:
    Interzone
    After he KOs Khan and makes him go away forever too:crafty:
     
  9. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2007
    Messages:
    25,362
    Likes Received:
    3,706
    Location:
    West London
    Khan would smash him
     
  10. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    70,701
    Likes Received:
    5,918
    Occupation:
    Involved in hyperbole
    Location:
    Interzone
    Hmm...50/50 fight, at this stage. I'd probably lean towards Judah he's the far better boxer & better puncher & I'd fancy his chin to be slightly better. Judah within 4.
     
  11. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2007
    Messages:
    25,362
    Likes Received:
    3,706
    Location:
    West London
    I don't agree
     
  12. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    70,701
    Likes Received:
    5,918
    Occupation:
    Involved in hyperbole
    Location:
    Interzone
    Neither do I really :lol:

    It's an interesting fight though.
     
  13. ElTerriblee

    ElTerriblee "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2007
    Messages:
    9,562
    Likes Received:
    0
    He would beat Paulie. Paulie has nothing to hurt him. Judah is faster than Paulie. It would be a less dominant version of Khan´s fight with Paulie.

    Tough to find a slower fighter than Urango, but despite that he always has his moments. He even connected with some solid leather againt Alexander, before he was knocked out. 70/30 in Judah´s favour, but Urango has a real shot here, despite the speed difference.

    Khan has never fought an opponent as fast and powerful as him, which would make that an intriguing fight. Youth favours Khan, but wouldn´t shock me if Judah caught him. Still 70/30 in Khan´s favour.

    Don´t give Judah any chance to beat Alexander or Bradley. Both have proven to have sturdy chins and they are simply better all-around fighters.

    I forgot

    Pacquiao is a slightly slower version of Baldomir, that would be 50/50.
     
  14. D MAN

    D MAN "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2003
    Messages:
    5,890
    Likes Received:
    536
    Location:
    Vancouver
    Home Page:
    Id favour him over everyone on the list except pacman. Judah has a great offence and being back in his prime division and having a great attitude should put him back on top.
     
  15. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    5,905
    Likes Received:
    3
    Hasn't Pacquiao officially left 140lbs, following consecutive bouts at 147?
     
  16. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    24,786
    Likes Received:
    6,011
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Motherfucker
    Location:
    -49.330540, 68.950885
    Anyone with a heart will beat him
     
  17. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    55,613
    Likes Received:
    13,233
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Well Timmy is improving more and more with every fight. What I DO know is that I'd pick a younger Zab to KO the Bradley we saw vs Kendall Holt. But I think Bradley is better now. But still, Bradley has become somewhat overrated, and a prime Judah has become UNDERRATED. People act as if he was some bum or something. Zab has only lost once at 140.
     
  18. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    108,240
    Likes Received:
    8,092
    Location:
    In The Trenches With My Boy Sepp
    Home Page:
    He can beat them all.
     
  19. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    55,613
    Likes Received:
    13,233
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    How bout Judah vs Ortiz? Thats another winnable fight for Zab.
     
  20. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    108,240
    Likes Received:
    8,092
    Location:
    In The Trenches With My Boy Sepp
    Home Page:
    Who has Judah lost to?

    Cotto.....Mayweather....Tszyu.....Clottey....Baldomir....in other words a class of fighter who is probably a cut above the vast majority of guys listed above.
     
  21. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    55,613
    Likes Received:
    13,233
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Only one of the above losses were at 140. I wouldnt be totally fooled by last night. Make no mistake about it, Zab is past his prime. He's nowhere near as quick, or as sharp now as he was in his original 140 career.

    I'd pick the pre-Tszyu Judah to beat any of the current jrn welters. None of these guys can compare to Tszyu.
     
  22. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2006
    Messages:
    11,894
    Likes Received:
    0
    Can't imagine there's much of a chance Golden Boy would make that fight, but yeah, that'd definitely have some intrigue.

    If HBO's going to try and make 140 a focus, there should be room for Judah against one of these guys.

    He also draws better than a lot of the guys in the division.
     
  23. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2002
    Messages:
    33,876
    Likes Received:
    1,384
    He will surely lose to Pacquiao...and beat Malignaggi. He would have blasted everyone else on that list a few years ago...but today who knows.
     
  24. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2003
    Messages:
    12,197
    Likes Received:
    1,465
    I would pay to see him KO Khan, whom I cannot stand.
     

Share This Page