Zab Judah's presence in the 140 lb. division

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Dog Jones, Jul 17, 2010.

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Who does Zab beat?

  1. Tim Bradley (WBO champ)

    21.4%
  2. Devon Alexander (WBC/IBF champ)

    14.3%
  3. Amir Khan (WBA champ)

    42.9%
  4. Paulie Malignaggi

    71.4%
  5. Manny Pacquiao (RING/linear champ)

    7.1%
  6. Juan Urango

    28.6%
  7. He beats nobody on this list

    28.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    After that KO of Jose Armando Santa Cruz, how does Zab do against the elite of the 140 lb. division?
     
  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    The only one of the list I'd give him no chance with is Manny. He'd be a live underdog vs Bradley and Alexander, though at this point he prob loses to both. He'd also have a very legit chance at KOing the Con man if he connects.

    He'd always beat Paulie, and Urango.
     
  3. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I'd like to see a fight with him and Alexander.
     
  4. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Bradley?

    No way Zab beats Bradley unless he quick flashes a few rounds and gets an accidental head butt type stoppage where it goes to the cards.

    "Prime" Judah (whatever that is) would get beaten down by Bradley as well.
     
  5. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    judah looked good tonight against a no-chin lightweight who was never really good to begin with.

    i think he beats urango and paulie, but that's not even a sure thing.

    bradley beats him down and alexander outpoints him.
     
  6. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    I just want him to go away forever
     
  7. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    prime judah was getting all he could handle from bradley (who had yet to turn pro)
     
  8. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    After he KOs Khan and makes him go away forever too:crafty:
     
  9. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Khan would smash him
     
  10. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Hmm...50/50 fight, at this stage. I'd probably lean towards Judah he's the far better boxer & better puncher & I'd fancy his chin to be slightly better. Judah within 4.
     
  11. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    I don't agree
     
  12. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Neither do I really :lol:

    It's an interesting fight though.
     
  13. ElTerriblee

    ElTerriblee "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    He would beat Paulie. Paulie has nothing to hurt him. Judah is faster than Paulie. It would be a less dominant version of Khan´s fight with Paulie.

    Tough to find a slower fighter than Urango, but despite that he always has his moments. He even connected with some solid leather againt Alexander, before he was knocked out. 70/30 in Judah´s favour, but Urango has a real shot here, despite the speed difference.

    Khan has never fought an opponent as fast and powerful as him, which would make that an intriguing fight. Youth favours Khan, but wouldn´t shock me if Judah caught him. Still 70/30 in Khan´s favour.

    Don´t give Judah any chance to beat Alexander or Bradley. Both have proven to have sturdy chins and they are simply better all-around fighters.

    I forgot

    Pacquiao is a slightly slower version of Baldomir, that would be 50/50.
     
  14. D MAN

    D MAN "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Id favour him over everyone on the list except pacman. Judah has a great offence and being back in his prime division and having a great attitude should put him back on top.
     
  15. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Hasn't Pacquiao officially left 140lbs, following consecutive bouts at 147?
     
  16. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Anyone with a heart will beat him
     
  17. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Well Timmy is improving more and more with every fight. What I DO know is that I'd pick a younger Zab to KO the Bradley we saw vs Kendall Holt. But I think Bradley is better now. But still, Bradley has become somewhat overrated, and a prime Judah has become UNDERRATED. People act as if he was some bum or something. Zab has only lost once at 140.
     
  18. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    He can beat them all.
     
  19. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    How bout Judah vs Ortiz? Thats another winnable fight for Zab.
     
  20. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Who has Judah lost to?

    Cotto.....Mayweather....Tszyu.....Clottey....Baldomir....in other words a class of fighter who is probably a cut above the vast majority of guys listed above.
     
  21. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Only one of the above losses were at 140. I wouldnt be totally fooled by last night. Make no mistake about it, Zab is past his prime. He's nowhere near as quick, or as sharp now as he was in his original 140 career.

    I'd pick the pre-Tszyu Judah to beat any of the current jrn welters. None of these guys can compare to Tszyu.
     
  22. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Can't imagine there's much of a chance Golden Boy would make that fight, but yeah, that'd definitely have some intrigue.

    If HBO's going to try and make 140 a focus, there should be room for Judah against one of these guys.

    He also draws better than a lot of the guys in the division.
     
  23. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    He will surely lose to Pacquiao...and beat Malignaggi. He would have blasted everyone else on that list a few years ago...but today who knows.
     
  24. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I would pay to see him KO Khan, whom I cannot stand.
     

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