Gary Shaw to complain to HBO: 'I don't have the fighters to make "in-house" fights'

Well, those weren't the exact words he used...

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=29357

Apparently Angulo's willing to fight anyone from 154-whatever, except for another fighter who actually is promoted by Shaw, the champion he was in line to fight, Sergei Dzinziruk.

 

Shaw is fat.

 

No argument there.

Gary Shaw: "We need to see the best fighters fight the best"

Result: Alfredo Angulo TKO 1 Joachim Alcine.

And for him to talk about the best fighting the best, and then in the next breath talk about Pacquiao-Morales II after the debacle that was Zahir Raheem's victory over 'El Terrible' is quite an interesting take.

 

Look, Shaw takes care of his fighters. But he is not involved with looking after the sport. At all. Anything else is a pretense on his behalf. For Dirrell vs Abraham, he wanted 3 Yank judges and a Yank ref.

Shaw is a fat :shit:

 

Obviously he's not involved with looking after the sport.

But it's nice when you get a herpes-mouthpiece like Kellerman to complain about two rival promoters on television.

As though HBO is looking after the sport.

 

Yeah, but I think there's always been a disconnect between the broadcast crew and the higher ups at HBO.

 

I don't know that Kellerman's comments weren't on behalf of HBO's higher ups...after all, Golden Boy Promotions went and made Mosley-Mora for pay per view (a fight Greenburg said they had not yet committed to) when HBO was pushing for Mosley-Berto...and Bob Arum has openly stated Cotto and Margarito are the likely next opponents for Manny Pacquiao, if the Mayweather negotiations fall through...and some significant Top Rank fighters have noticeably drifted away from HBO (JuanMa being a recent example).

 

Kellerman basically tried his heart out last night to tell us all how Tim "Desert Orchid" Bradley vs Devon "I Hold Less Than Hatton" Alexander would be a great fight, a fight we could, no doubt, for $50, see on HBO.

He then goes on to add that Bradley vs Alexander was one of the top 3 fights in Boxing right now.:notallthere:

 

If Bradley/Alexander happens I'm confident it will be on HBO, not PPV.

 

It's a decent fight that I would stay up for, nothing more. A decent scrap between to good fighters in a division that definitely saw better days from 2000-2007.

 

I'm hard pressed to think of four or five fights I would rather see. I really like what I've seen from Alexander so far.

Both guys are much better than Hatton ever was.

 

:atu::atu:

Yes, I can see both of them beating Tszyu at 140, quite handily.

 

Probably depends on the ref's interpretation of the rules of boxing.

 

Yeah, I'll tell you what it depends on, it depends on Prime Hatton having more power, a better chin and more variety than Bradley. And that's all it fucking depends on.

 

Maybe he meant it's one of the top 3 fights HBO can afford.

They couldn't bring Mosley-Berto together, they've struggled to get Martinez-Williams II made and now Tall Paul's talking about 147, Kelly Pavlik's floating somewwhere in the ether, JuanMa's across the street, Angulo's camp doesn't appear ready yet to put him against one of the elite (at this point are they even ready to put him in a Cintron rematch? ::), Kirkland's not out yet, Baby Fat is being offered up Juan Manuel Marquez to see how much he has left.

But they think Bradley and Alexander might be affordable.

 

Well of course Shaw isn't looking after the sport. Neither is ODLH or Arum or believe it or not HBO. All of these people are only looking after one thing...their bottom line. We call it sports but to them it's nothing but a business and if it isn't in their best interest they're not going to do it. If they can level the playing field in their favor by bribing judges, fighting only in house opponents etc, they're going to do it. So we may look at it is failing the integrity of the sport but to them it's simply a business decision as they can care less about the integrity of the sport. This goes for all promoters and all networks.

For Shaw to pull this card is purely hypocritical.

 

Reading your post makes me realize how shitty HBO has become. While I do like the Dawson-Pascall fight that is coming up, there's not much coming beside that ( Cloud-Johnson is interesting but Glenn is a huge underdog imo considering his age and Tavoris was fighting Clinton Woods, who was about the same level as Johson is at this stage of his career, on ESPN II and with a better undercard than Alexander-Kotelnik ).

They could make good fights, Cotto-Cintron would be a barnburner and huge rating wise, but they're content to ''create'' stars wich is feeding cans or past their prime names to the new flavor of the mont of their friend promoters ( Arreola, Angulo, Berto, Ortiz, ... )

 

Bradley may turn out to be better than Hatton, but he certainly didn't prove it as of now, and last night garbage didn't help him at all.

 

Of course he is, but he's making a damn good point

 

I agree with Max on this point, and hope we can get some decent viewpoints here without some smack type-rs ruining this thread, and I like Alexander here.

Karl

 

Gary Shaws right of course. So is Kellerman...

 

Hey, I agree, if Bradley get's a bit of poise, and some fighters who can bring the very very best out of him, and force him to dog it out for the win, who knows.

Right now I see his lack of power and variety being a real stumbling block though. He seems to me to be a Hatton-Lite. All the fitness and work of a prime Ricky, without the big digs, especially downstairs.

 

I like Alexander as well. he could very well KO Bradley.

Shaw is absolutely correct with his comments on HBO, Golden Boy and Top Rank. At least Top Rank produces their own shows and gets their younger talent work. Golden Boy solely relies on HBO money to fund their operation.

 

Bradley has better boxing skills than Hatton. With that said...as wide as Bradley throws, I see Pac knocking him out the same way Hatton got drilled. Bradley's got some footspeed and can stay away with Pac but the moment they trade, Manny's such a straight sharp shooter Bradley never sees it coming.

 

Bradley cannot punch and that for me is the end of it. He couldn't beat Tszyu because he had nothing to keep Tszyu off him with. Simple as. As for Pac...well.....I think that is a bit of a mystery. He can beat Manny Pac but nobody beats Flash Gordon.