Felix Trinidad (Prime) vs Chavez Jr @154

but HOW MUCH did it ADD in the first place??

that is what you and the other rocket scientist cant answer in any way, shape or form

 

I don't really care. That's incredibly irrelevent. "Oh yes, well he may have cheated, but to what EXTENT did it cheat?"


Pft...

 

technically, adding extra soft padding to your gloves is CHEATING

it is anything BUT irrelevant

 

Anything a boxer uses for an advantage outside of the rules is blatantly cheating. I really don't care to ponder up hypotheticals on how much a tape cast added to TIto's punch. He was a cheat, plain and simple.

 

i know. i'm beginning to wonder why so many people have a problem admitting this to themselves.

 

:atu:

And yet you don't call Margarito a cheat, even though he was caught loading his gloves.

 

And yet I do call Margarito a cheat...:doh:

 

Maybe you need to slap yourself in the head some more to recall what you have said. Just recently in the Leonard-Whitaker topic we discussed Margarito and here is what you said:

Where is the mention of Margarito being a cheat here?? Do you conveniently "forget" to mention it when it doesn't work for your argument?

 

So I'm supposed to mention that he's a cheat in every topic that he's mentioned? :doh:

 

if you are going to take credit away from Trinidad for cheating, how can you neglect to do so for Margarito, who's offenses and their inevitable end results are far more verifiable than Trinidad's??

 

I never did such a thing. Stop making things up.

 

you are giving credit to Margarito for "beating Cotto's ass"

you didnt take away credit from Trinidad for cheating???

have you forgotten the past three pages?

 

Where exactly did I take credit away from Trinidad?

Oh wait, I didn't.

 

so then let me get this straight...

you are 100 PERCENT CONVINCED that Trinidad cheated and had an unfair advantage over his opponents for a number of years prior to being caught...

but you think that is OKAY?

the cheating is cool by you, I take it?

 

No it's not cool. Stop assuming and making things up.

 

Start making intelligent points for once and people won't simply assume that you are an idiot

 

No need to be embarrassed. I'm sure people will give you a pass for blatantly making things up and stating opinions as fact.

 

You say Trinidad cheated but you dont take any credit away from him for doing so

therefore, it is your belief that cheating is okay

I know you aren't very smart so this is difficult for you to comprehend

 

Or maybe I don't jump to conclusions. I never said anything about Trinidad other than it was confirmed that he used illegal wraps.

Unbelievably so, you, who can't even differentiate between logical fallacies, are questioning my intelligence based on oft-repeated boxing perceptions and opinions. :doh:

 

you said he cheated

you also said you would take no credit away from him

therefore, his cheating must have been negligable and symbolic rather than actually a detriment to his opponents

Im questioning your intelligence because you make absurd observations without a shred of reasoning to back them up and when your points are shown to be badly flawed, you respond with one-sentence deflections that have nothing to do with what is being discussed... I havent seen you defend a point yet... you are a 12 year old troll

 

More lies.

 

voila

 

Reading comprehension is not your friend. Did you go to college?

 

yes, and unlike you I also graduated High School, you have not attended yet

basically, you dont have a position. You take no side, you make no definitive stance.

Either Trinidad cheated or he didnt (you say he did)

either it gave him an advantage or it did not (you havent specified)

either you think credit should be taken away from him or you don't (you have expressed vague aspects of both)

the only conclusion is that either you are incredibly dense and can not understand simple questions or inferences, or you are a troll

 

Your observation skills are finally kicking in, nice job. :Thumbs:

 

Go away.

 

this of course makes you a "troll"

 

No, it makes me someone who interjects debates with established facts.

 

Or a troll......

Double L: Tito cheated!
cdogg: No he didn't!
TLC: He did cheat actually....
cdogg: Oh ::, I guess you have proof.
TLC: Yes. *proof*
cdogg: *Irrelevent excuses*
TLC: I don't care, he cheated.. His trainer admitted it. It's all there.
cdogg: YOU BE TROLLIN'!



Fightbeat MM logic...beautiful.

 

Will you FUCK OFF already you obnoxious little child.

You're a facet stream of provocative, barely coherent runny shit