Floyd Mayweather vs. Donald Curry @ WW

I see a prime Curry giving Leonard a tougher fight than Floyd would. Ray stops both of them though.

 

Ray doesn't stop Floyd. The only Welterweights capable of stopping Mayweather would be hearns and Robinson simply because of teh combination of power and speed.

 

I do believe Ray Leonard had both as well.

 

In a 15 rounder best believe Ray stops Floyd.

 

pity we can find a hot tub time machine and attempt to prove this theory. Floyd is too elusive, too much stamina and too tough in combination to be stopped by Leonard.

 

If Leonard got Floyd in trouble the way Mosley did, guaranteed Floyd would be fucked. And it would happen. Leonard was faster than old Mosley, and hit harder.

 

It would like the Benitez fight.

 

Ray liked Benitez. He woulda hated Floyd, and woulda pushed harder for the KO.

 

Curry was a guy who fought with his eyes; he always had his chin in the air;

 

Ray stops Floyd. Ray has what Floyd doesn't...killer instinct plus power in both hands.

 

Floyd wouldn't fight back as much as Benitez.

 

Bullshit...

Leonard was a better puncher, had equal speed and was mean. Consider the fact he made welterweight on the day of the fight, give him overnight to rehydrate, he fucks Floyd up.

The ONLY way floyd doesn't get KO'd is to run away. If that's what you're saying, I agree.

 

I dunno why Floyd vs Leonard is even debated.

Debate Floyd vs Benitez, cause its no sure thing that Floyd even beats Wilfred.

 

Agreed

Mayweather is a fantastic fighter, one of the three best fighters of the last fifteen years, but he's not a legit welter IMO. Especially when your matching him up with all-time greats.

 

Fuck!

Suddenly Ray Leonard was this heavyhitting murderous welterweight. Wow...how his abilities increase with every decade!

IF George Foreman got Ali in trouble the way Frazier did, guaranteed Ali would be fucked. And it would happen. Foreman was bigger, taller, more intense with a longer reach than Frazier, and hit harder.

 

Muzse...

You'd pick your sister to KO Floyd.

 

He just picked Floyd over Curry. Something I disagree with. Floyd is a brilliant fighter, and only a couple of guys in the history of 130-140 could beat him, but at Welter theres a good number all time who beat him.

 

her straight right hand is nothing to play with.

 

I could see that. Either way, I don't see how Floyd would survive. If he runs like hell he can last the distance but Leonard would punish that body not to mention man handle PBF on the inside. That pushing off with the left elbow to the neck/chest area and then coming with the quick right hand would not work against Sugar Ray.

Which is the only reason I'd give him a chance at lasting the distance.

But the fight would play out similarly. Ray would outspeed Floyd and Floyd would mostly succeed with making him miss and landing an occasional shot.

 

Beating him is one thing. Knocking him out is another. I agree with both Leonard and Hearns beating Floyd. But only Hearns has a realistic chance of knocking him out..and even then..I'd expect Floyd to last the distance.

What you have to understand is that Floyd has shown a dependable chin. Shane Mosley..39 years old or not...hit him with full mustard on the shot...an overhand right..as early as teh 2nd round where Shane's age wouldn't have been so much of a factor (and power is the last thing to go as well)..he hit Floyd FLUSH...when Floyd was out of position. If Floyd had a weak chin..or even average..THAt shot would have put him down or else had him completely vulnerable to a follow up attack. It's a 1 in a 1000 shot. Floyd took it and recovered quickly enough to have shane on the defensive within seconds.

Couple that with Floyd's known defense, stamina and smarts..it would take a LEGIT 1 punch KO artist to have a chance to knock this guy out. Ray Leonard was not that guy.

 

Floyd has about as much chance of lasting the distance with a prime Hearns as Amir Khan would have of lasting the distance with a prime Tszyu.

For the love of Christ look what Mosley's right hand did to Floyd. Now picture that being Tommy's right cross instead. Floyd would indeed be dancing with the stars after Tommy lands.

 

Mosley isn't and never was the fighter Leonard was. Leonard would have figured Floyd out and knocked him out. Period.

 

Tommy didn't throw the overhand right. Floyd was hit by an overhand right (almost a right hook) when he was out of position. Who says Hearns throws that shot let alone is ALLOWED to throw that shot. Floyd would be on the defensive against hearns and wouldn't be hit with it.

FUCK.....people don't throw the same shots as others and every fight is the same. Ali got hit with a left hook early against Cooper, he didn't get hit with anything from Liston. Why is that? He was more on guard against Liston.

THINK..dude..think!

 

Dude......

Leonard was NOT a KO specialist. Don't make him out ot be. Leonard hit hard and was incredibly skillful...yes...but he was no Hearns in terms of KO ability. He aint knocking out Floyd. No way no how.

 

he doesn't have to be to KO Floyd.

 

True....Floyd has been KO'd so many times before. It's an easy task.

 

Agree with Sly here, don't think Leonard stops Floyd. Definitely not over 12 and probably not over 15 either. I wouldn't even bet on Hearns doing it, Floyd is just too adept defensively & too good at adapting to opponents patterns. The 'X did that, imagine what Y would do' is just stupid reasoning, and Im surprised as many posters who've been watching boxing for as long as we all have have resorted to it here.

Still not sure on Curry-Mayweather

 

I think Curry-Mayweather is a close fight with Curry getting it done with harder punching down the stretch. Wouldn't surprise me if he hurt Mayweather with a hook sometime late in the fight.

Now as far as....

Mayweather vs Leonard- 15 rounds, Leonard stops him late I think. Floyd facing a bigger and stronger man who is faster than he is, punches harder with either hand, and can be nasty when he wants to be. Floyd doesn't punch like Duran to intimidate Leonard from engaging. Floyd would befuddle him early, make him miss, and would land a few shots for sure, but Leonard would ultimately find his range and as the fight gets into the latter rounds, Ray would land more consistently, especially to the BODY and that would slow Mayweather down big time, and soften him up for the taking late.

Mayweather vs Hearns- I think it goes like Hearns vs Benitez with Floyd unable to get anything consistent going and succeeding only in making Hearns miss his more damaging shots. But Hearns from long range would be too much and Floyd is vulnerable to jabs. Floyd would be very leary of Hearns' right hand power and as such he probably wouldn't take many risks. But he wouldn't be able to win with that approach. Hearns via UD.

Mayweather vs Benitez- I like Floyd here. To me, Floyd's quicker on the trigger, punches harder, and IMO is a little smarter. It would be boring, and not too much in terms of clean punching will be done. And both would succeed in making each other miss alot. Its close and tightly contested. But the judges would favor Floyd's cleaner and more flashy shots. Mayweather via close UD.

Mayweather vs Duran- If this is the pre-Leonard 2 version, I like Duran to eventually grind down PBF in a fight that is competitive early, but as it goes on Duran would slow down Mayweather with his body attack and his physical strength inside would be a problem for Floyd. Not to mention how quick Duran could throw his right hand, even when he was countering over an opponents jab. Duran stops Mayweather late in a 15 rounder. 12 rounds it goes to decision.

 

yeah you are right, Double L, Curry sucked

thats why it was so easy for a super skilled counter puncher like Marlon Starling to land on him so easily in their two fights

oh wait, that didnt happen... Curry handily won both fights

 

Never thought we'd see Roy stretched once let alone twice...or Tyson.....or Duran.

Yeah, boxing never has surprises