Hopkins: "I could hit Haye a lot of times, but if he hits me once or twice it's over"

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  1. Quo Vadimus

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    Am I the only one confused from these two quotes (the bolded parts)? In one part of his answer he says that he wouldn't have a problem being outsized by Haye due to him not being a natural heavyweight, thus inferring that he wouldn't have a problem with him, and then in the next part of the SAME ANSWER he says that if Haye hits him once or twice the fight's done.

    Huh?

     
  2. Double L

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    Yes It's confusing. It's a completely incoherent response from Hopkins. Typical of Hopkins in fact. He starts by saying Vitali Klitschko is beyond his grasp due to his size. And then goes on to say that Haye, because of his modest size, is beatable. But then he goes on to say that size doesn't matter?
     
  3. Double L

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    This fight will be fixed, much like Hopkins/ODH was. Haye will win but he won't punish Hopkins too badly. This way, Haye won't be exposed as the over-hyped heavyweight that he is, people will give him credit for a win over a light heavyweight.

    Notice Hopkins basically tries to say he's a cruiserweight too, just like Haye.
     
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  5. Double L

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    Exactly.
     
  6. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    When you think about it, Hopkins began his career at the same weight class he finished it, there's definitely validity to his talk of discipline...Hopkins was a freak to be able to stay at 160 as long as he could...heck, he made 156 for the DLH fight.

    It is funny to read this interview and think back on all that talk of his promise to his mother to retire at 40. :lol:
     
  7. ElTerriblee

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    Hopkins missed his opportunity, when Valuev lost the belt. Two years ago, that was his chance. All he had to do was lure Valuev to America and repeat what Holyfield did.
     
  8. Quo Vadimus

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    And THAT is the exact reason I can't stand Hopkins. The dude talked about how his mom made him promise to retire before 40. Then was like "well...I'll fight until I turn 41, then it's not a broken promise" and then it's "well, she wouldn't mind"

    When I heard that last part I was like "Fuck Hopkins!" I couldn't fuck with dude after that.
     
  9. Hut*Hut

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    Do you make all your major life decisions based on your mothers wishes, Quo?
     
  10. Double L

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    I don't think that's the point. I think the point is that Hopkins' word doesn't mean shit. It'd be one thing if he ignored his mother's wishes all together. But he didn't. He made it known his intentions to respect her wishes. And then, just didn't.

    I think the point is, it's just one example of how nothing that comes out of Hopkins' mouth means shit.
     
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    Well his mother was dying, you know. You say things. I don't think any of us are in a position to judge him or even have an opinion on what went on there. Ultimately it's his life and his career and he had the right to change his mind.

    I'd imagine his mother's concern was that he'd stay on too long and get beat up. There was no question of that when Bernard Hopkins turned 40, he was still a p4per. If anything NOW is the time to respect the spirit of that promise.
     
  12. Double L

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    Well, by saying things publicly, Hopkins subjects himself to scrutiny, and rightfully so. All I'm saying is, when Hopkins said he promised his mother he'd retire, and did so publicly, he sought to benefit from the public's belief that he would do so, whether he realized it or not. And so the fact he didn't carry through with it means the public must count it against him (in order to account for their having first accredited him with it).
     
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    Spot on.
     
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  15. Mitchell Kane

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    Yeah, presumably the reason he's talking about Haye is he wants a shot at a title...but really, a fight that would probably do well is a fight with Adamek, another guy who's moved up.

    If they put that at the Prudential Center or maybe Atlantic City, that'd probably do a pretty good crowd.

    I remember there being some talk of that back when Adamek was at cruiser.

    If Hopkins only wants to fight for a belt, though, then I guess he wouldn't have incentive to fight Adamek now.
     
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    No hit Valuev repeatedly without getting hit.
     
  17. Quo Vadimus

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    If my mother was dying and she made me make a promise to her that I'd do something, I'd damn sure do everything I could to do that.

    Apparantly his mother's wishes means shit to Hopkins, despite making such a public deal about it.
     
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    Fair enough. I just don't think a mother has the right to make life changing demands of a 37 year old man and I don't think we have any right to an opinion on what went on there. A grown man has the prerogative to make his own life choices just like he has the prerogative to tell his dying mother things that'll comfort her. His only mistake was going public with the promise, but I guess the way his abilities held up so well aged 41 surprised him.
     
  19. salaco

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    Piss off Hopkins, unless he's across the ring from Chad Dawson, I've no interest in watching Hopkins try to spoil his way through a championship fight in eyewateringly boring fashion while taking up TV dates and money which should be spent on new blood
     
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