Who do you want to win Toney or Couture?

Not asking who you think WILL win but rather who you want to win? I personally for some odd reason want Toney to win. I think only because I want to see him fight again against a pure striker. But if Toney were to lose I want him to either tap out or be knocked out cold since anything other than that will result in Toney crying and making excuses. I want to see him humbled if he were to lose.

 

The ideal situation would be Toney KO 1, followed by him, or any other well known boxer never fighting in a cage again.

 

I'm torn on this. On the one hand I'd want to see him win just so I wouldn't have to listen to Dana's ignorant ass go on and on about how big a fan of Boxing he is, but they suck and MMA's the best and blah blah blah.

On the other hand, I flat out despise Toney. He's ignorant and he's just a complete asshole. And I would LOOOOOOOOVE to see him get his ass kicked royally. Not just a simple loss, but I want to see him just pummelled and humiliated so we can stop listening to him give his bullshit "interviews" where he's just cursing and acting ignorant.

But much like a loss to Floyd Mayweather won't humble him and make him shut up, I doubt this scenario for Toney would work either.

 

did you stop reading at that point? You know there's more to the sentence, right? :scratcher:

 

I can see why you would want that, but it's a distant second option for me.

 

For me it's not boxing versus MMA. I just can't stand James Toney. I respect what he's accomplished but just don't care for the guy. And Couture is just the opposite. How can you not like him? He's a great ambassador of the sport and still loves to compete even at 47.

If I had a perfect scenario I would mimic Godfather's take. That would be great. And would probably lead to more crossover action, which can only be helpful for the sport.

 

I guarantee you that is exactly what would happen if Toney won. James is just there to make a point.

 

Nah, I bet he keeps going if he wins. And I'm sure Dana would throw him to the sharks.

They're really banking on Toney being embarrassed with this whole UFC vs. Boxing promotion they're starting to hype up. It's a good gamble on their part, the odds are definitely on the cages side. But a Toney win would look bad.

 

Toney, I kind of like Couture but I'm a big Toney fan. And I'm pretty much alway's rooting for the striker, plus, a lot of idiocy will stop being spewed if Toney win

 

I am all for eliminating idocy whenever possible.

 

It's a rarity we get to see gold-belt level grapplers in MMA so I'm pulling for Toney.

 

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you obviously DIDN'T read the rest of the sentence, or you're simply trolling for a fight. It's obvious what I wrote, so I'm not wasting my time with you.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Fuck off.:mj:

 

Once again you dissect every fucking thing I write to single out something and say "WHERE IS THAT, SHOW ME PROOF".

You don't CARE. You just want to fight. Stop acting like Dana White and pretending you're oh so concerned, when you're not.

Here, let me type slowly and maybe you can fully understand what I'm saying.

Dana White consistently talks about how much of a boxing fan he is, and then after saying that he goes on a tangent about how fucked up Boxing is, and how MMA is better, and there's all these issues with boxing, and holds MMA up as some gold fucking standard.

As you well know THAT is what the fuck I was talking about. Obviously the "boxers suck" was an exaggeration and 99.9% of the people reading that knew what I meant.

Apparantly there's no room here for giving people the benefit of the doubt that they know what you're saying.

For your benefit I'll make sure to dumb down everything I say (yes I know I just opened myself WIDE for criticism there) so you are no longer confused about what I meant, and won't have to demand proof, as if anything I provided would be good enough.

There. Is that easily understandable for you? If not, too bad.

EDIT: and before you start in, I don't give a shit whether you think Dana has a point or if he's correct about anything he's saying. As you WELL know it's it's intentions to make Boxing look like shit and MMA look awesome in contrast, and has a financial stake in doing that. So he can say he's a boxing fan all he wants, and I'll continue realizing he's full of shit.

 

Is the UFC trying to play with Toney head and give Couture some psychological advantage by putting subtitles when Toney speaks ????

http://118.ufc.com/#/couturevstoney/video/

BTW, Toney looks awfull in the video, the 3 left hooks he threw on the punching bags were pathetic

 

With me, and it could JUST be me, but the way I look at it, it's all about intentions. Someone can say that they like something, but if everything they do is in contradiction to that it raises flags with me.

Floyd Mayweather says he wants Pac to take steroids tests because he's trying to clean up boxing and whatnot.

Yet in his past interviews he's openly stated that boxing is nothing without him. Does that sound like someone that really gives a shit about the sport, aside from it making him money?

To me, it seems that it's very clearly a situation of him wanting to fuck with Pac, and in the process try to make people think it's NOT about Pac but it's about some higher goal of helping the sport that he claims he's bigger than.

Likewise, when Dana White says that he's a fan of boxing, and yet everything he speaks of in relation to Boxing is negative, that makes me wonder just how big a fan he is.

Now in both of those situations, the person doing the talking perhaps has a point.

Boxing WOULD be better with blood testing for everyone.

Boxing DOES have it's issues with how it's run.

But those saying those things, their actions run in contradiction to what they are trying to say.

With Floyd, he can say that it's all about boxing and him trying to help it, but it's not. He's on record as saying he doesn't give a shit about anything but his money and his perfect record.

So when he says it's about helping boxing, I can't believe that.

Dana can say he's a fan of boxing til he's blue in the face, but it doesn't change that, at least by my count, he's never had a truly positive thing to say about Boxing. It's always negative shit, and the few things he's said positive are backhanded slaps or condescending positives.

And in BOTH cases the people have financial or personal stakes in doing what they're doing.

Dana benefits from slagging off Boxing while hyping up MMA. If people listen to him and stop paying for Boxing because of all the shit wrong with it, and instead go to MMA which he holds up as the model or something, then that helps him out financially and career wise.

He may even believe he's a Boxing fan, but TRUE boxing fans don't have 100% negative shit to say about it. If he's said truly positive things without throwing negative stuff in there, or tempering positive with negative things, I'd love for someone to post it up because I haven't ever seen it. Not to say it's never happened, but I've never heard it.

 

I'll root for the boxer!

 

Two Saturday night fight sports that are often in PPV, sometimes on the same night?

They aren't competitors? ::

 

I want Couture to win so Steve_Dave won't be in here beating his chest about it.