Underrated Boxing Skills

my understanding is based on observation and physics, not rumor or myth.

 

You have a background in physics?

 

only that i live on the same planet as fighters, and am subjected to the same physical laws.

 

What do you do Double?

 

Nope. I speak the truth, which revisionists like you don't seem to like very much. It's not my fault that you are a jackass who blathers on and on when it's obvious you don't have a clue.

 

This is hilarious because you spend all kinds of time trying to create myths about fighters you dislike.

 

agREED.

 

Yep. Hagler could brawl with the best of them when he needed to, but he was a boxer more often than not.

 

jesse feliciano

 

The point is there is nothing wrong with the level of competition that Hopkins has fought as he's beaten and exposed top fighters. So your reasoning for claiming he's overrated is ridiculous.

 

same here, my friend

I have been hollering about it for years

guy was a careful boxer with a great jab and a sound defense... because he COULD take a furious punch without being hurt and because of the Hearns fight and his bald head and goattee tough guy image, people always think of him as being Bennie Briscoe-esque... he never was like that

 

And of course the two best-remembered fights of his career are Hearns and Leonard, the first being a bona-fide brawl, the second being a fight where Leonard's running and Haglers being past-his-best made Marvin look like a slow, one-paced stalker/brawler.

Most big-book-of-boxing type fans watch these fights and get the wrong impression.

A brawler would never outbox Duran over 15.

 

Great list!

How about a young Foreman when he was training with Liston and a couple of years after he died?

He made some beautiful spin moves that Dick Sadler and Doc Broadus taught him.

He forgot all about that when he started to hammer these guys out starting with Joe, and even in that fight, he looked sharp, threw his shots from his boxing stance, and those uppercuts and short hooks were a thing of beauty coming from a man of that size.

Karl

 

agree!

and though it gets people really mad when I say it, Marvin could be a bit of a bully, he did not like it when someone did the rough stuff to him and he would get cranky and suddenly would care about things like headbutts and beltline punches, he still won but he could be made uncomfortable by guys who tried to play tough guy to him (the first Hamsho fight, Roldan)