Best Southpaw of all time

oh fuck off with this racial resentment stuff, you wee mick bastard

Hagler beat Briscoe, Cyclone Hart, Monroe, Watts, Antuofermo, Minter, Hamsho, Roldan ... all of them good, strong, capable middleweights and all of them better than 95% of the guys Calzaghe beat

 

Pacquiao.

Marc Johnson lost to a scouser

 

terrible management+highway robbery

 

Did you see that fight? I'd be surprised if your answer wasnt no.

 

thats the holy grail. i have it on blu ray, with minter-sibson (complete)

 

Wow, i thought you were talking shite but am genuinely impressed instead. Would love to see it after hearing conflicting reports based on hearsay about the fight over the years.

 

naw i was talkin shit. im skeptical if that fight was actually filmed.

 

Never seen it personally, as Salaco said there are conflicting reports about whether it was a robbery or not, I just found it funny that one of the best fighters in the world P4P was carrying a loss to someone as ordinary as Richie Wenton.

That's cool you have it though man, I wasn't even aware there was footage of that fight around.

 

You actually caught me out there ya cheeky bastardo

 

that is a fight i dont need to see to know it was a robbery. Ive seen wenton and that is all i need to know. not to mention the bout took place on st patricks day. i suspect nacho beristain was managing johnson back then.

 

ive spoken to johnson ( a pious lad, of the utmost integrity) about it a few times and he insists it was a robbery.

 

if you want to know the truth, they had wentons brother weigh in for him.

 

Yes....Fulgencio Oblejimas or whatever the fuck his name was. Not only did Hagler fight him....he fought him....TWICE:atu::atu:

Oh, that and that Club-Foot from Italy, Antuofermo.

Hagler vs Oblemeijas....in Italy. Those were the fucking days, bubba.:Wah::Wah:

 

Hamsho...an obscure Syrian. Yes. Syria. ointlaugh:

Cyclone Hart. Is that a supplement?:scratcher:

 

two guys who actually won titles.


pudwill and mcIntyre couldnt win a single round vs m. hakkar

 

Fair enough, I'd suspect it was not kosher although it was a four rounder plus Johnson's debut, and these things happen. I doubt it being st. patrick's day would have helped wenton on that card, more likely that being allied with whatever promoter was involved with dave boy mc auley would have done the trick if he was regarded as a promising 'home' fighter.

btw, there is apparently a complete version of sibson-minter out there.

 

Crap, I blew that one completely. Hill was not a southpaw, and I was thinking about Tszyu's fight with Jake the snake. When Tszyu was trying to figure out a southpaw.

 

How about a nice cup of STFU?:crafty:................even Ring Magazine wrote an article complaining about how Hagler was fighting this scrub Oblemeijas.:Thumbs:

 

Pudwill, despite being unimaginably awful, went the distance with Ottke as well as fighting Calzaghe. He was also a two week replacement for Thomas Tate, who pulled out injured.

MTF

 

Tate was afraid.opcorn:

 

1. Pernel
2. Hagler
3. Pac
4. Galaxy
5. Calzaghe

 

I'm surprised so many are picking Pee-Wee.

 

Possibly the best pure boxer in the history of the entire sport. He'd clown Pac for my money.

 

Yeah right. There's no fucking way he clowns Pacquiao. And at 140 or 147 he'd get stopped.

 

When the omnipotent super computer overlord takes over and shows us this at the end of our 130 hour work week to enjoy high on our soma dosage, I'll bet you my friend.:cheer:

 

in 1981 perhaps

but I dont think they could have envisioned a "champion" like Calzaghe... fighters like that didnt exist back then, there wasnt a shitty division for them to co-rule unspectacularly against utterly shitty fighters

 

wishful thinking on your part, big time

 

whats funny is that wenton was a super bantamweight his entire career except that one fight, at super flyweight. go figure.

 

Fully Obel wouldve been one of the upper half of calzaghe's title defenses for sure.

 

without question, and hes one of Haglers lesser defenses