Marquez-Morales: Expect it

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Mitchell Kane, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    No real surprise, they've got common opponents but haven't fought each other yet.

    Marquez is walking around with his hand out...and Morales may help him fill it...not like Pacquiao could, but he would get hit less by El Terrible.

    Dan Rafael:

     
  2. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Normally i wouldn't care about two guys so well passed it but i still think it could be entertaining.

    Another better late than never fight i guess.
     
  3. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I'd watch it. Wouldn't pay for it.
     
  4. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Same, but what are the chances it will be free?

    I'm thinking about the same as Arreola weighing at under 500 pounds for a fight.
     
  5. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Fucking terrible shite. Pair of shot-to-shit fighters, years past their best and many moons removed from their best weights.............
     
  6. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Those are pretty good odds.
     
  7. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Live? None. After that? High.

    I can wait. I'm pretty patient.
     
  8. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Marquez isn't shot, but he is on the downslope, and I don't have much desire of seeing him and Pacquiao go another round...whether Pac's on something or not, he's outgrown Marquez.
     
  9. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Well he is definitely sliding. He used up what little bit he had left with that effort against Floyd. Morales is definitely shot.
     
  10. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    We have different definitions, apparently.
     
  11. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    makes too much sense financially for both for the fight not to happen
     
  12. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Where have we heard that before?
     
  13. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    these are two guys with less options, however
     
  14. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Standard Issue American response for a shitty fight.

    "Oh the money is too big"...."it makes sense for all parties"

    Fuck off.
     
  15. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    i speak the truth. i did not claim to be interested in the bout or that Id watch. if you are surprised it is being discussed seriously, you are a dullard.
     
  16. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    but i agree with the irish knobjockey, it is a shitty fight. reminiscent of calzaghe vs jones jr. in many ways.
     
  17. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    :atu:

    How? Both Jones and Calzaghe were over 5'2"!!

    Money Making Midgetry!!

    Neil, you cunt.:Wah:
     
  18. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Calzaghe was at least near the top of his game while Roy was finished.

    I think that fight was more similar to Lewis-Tyson.

    To me this is much more like Forrest-Quartey.
     
  19. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I understand the remark in general, but don't really see it's application with this fight.
     
  20. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    I was thinking the same thing. Also though, I wouldn't be surprised to see JMM/Khan. Khan/Morales would be interesting since the two look like the same person.
     
  21. LATIN KING

    LATIN KING Undisputed Champion

    both are past it. But it's stupid to suggest that JMM is as shot as Morales.

    Morales is at 147 because he is out of shape. While JMM is the 135 champion.

    JMM has more options than Morales. He can defend his tittles at 135 or go up to 140 and fight Khan. he would lose to Khan but it's a decent payday. Something I dont' see Morales anywhere near.

    I think at some point it might happen but I could care less. I rather JMM fight better challenges before fighting Morales.
     
  22. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Neil, it's in no way obvious that RJJ would've beaten Calzaghe regardless of when they fought. RJJ can wait until the end of his career to fight real competition all he wants, but it doesn't mean he would've beaten them in his prime.
     
  23. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Morales is naturally bigger than JMM in my opinion. Whereas Morales's days at 122 and 126 were marked by starvation and emaciation, JMM was perfectly comfortable fighting for years at 126.
     
  24. LATIN KING

    LATIN KING Undisputed Champion

    that's bullshit! everytime Morales would go up in weight within the year he would claim he was too big for the weight.

    Looking at Morales at 147 is like Tito at 175. neither guy is making the effort to be in shape.
     
  25. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Nah. I think his frame suggests he fought under-weight in the best years of his career.

    At 147 he he's not out of place. And at 140 he's plenty big.
     
  26. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Looks like the fall fight might be against Katsidis:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5497223

     
  27. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Schaeffer on Marquez-Morales:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5497223
     
  28. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Forrest/Quartey was a very scientific fight. Very good.
     
  29. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Apparently he's gonna prob fight Kat on Nov 27th.
     

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