Boxing in UFC is done: "I don't care if it's Mayweather or anybody else."

You base your argument on a couple of your experiences rolling/sparring in the gym. Now that's funny. That's impartial for sure!

I have competed in both sports and can tell you I have been beaten up in both for sure. In boxing, I've taken my licks for sure, but pretty much know what'd coming or what to expect. In MMA, I'm still getting caught with shit that I haven't yet. Waaaay more variables.

Stupid argument comparing the two. Both are tough as fuck and someone claiming that one is easy compared to the other clearly has an agenda.

 

Should be simple to understand.

 

I have never hidden the fact I have an agenda.

I come here to talk boxing.

I think cage fighting is garbage.

This is a boxing website.

There are people here who diminish boxing to prop up cage fighting (Although TFK was the worst offender and now it isn't so bad)

If people are going to attack my sport on what used to be the only place where I was surrounded by fans, I'm going to fight back.

I absolutely have an agenda.

 

And he does it in a section of the forum that is supposed to be for MMA fans.

And don't let him fool you, he was attacking MMA far before anyone in here attacked boxing. On top of that, I was just in the General Forum and couldn't find one single post slamming boxing and touting MMA. Hmmmmmm.

Again, I sure miss TFK.


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TFK has been slamming boxing for years. It goes back a long way.

 

You need to move on. TFK is long gone. This is the MMA section.

Quit with the trolling and stay in the other sections if MMA causes you such heartburn.

Damn son it's just conversation. There isn't a single person on this forum that is going to kill boxing or help MMA grow. Let it go.

 

I'm only here because you started slamming boxing on here after the fight. Every single time anyone does that, I'll be here to screw with them.

 

He does. I know him personally.

 

If you don't like 'em, don't read 'em. It's pretty simple.

Everyone will read though.

 

As I said, even if Fedor made that comment, he would be wrong also.

A dumb comment is dumb even if an expert makes it.

 

People can do what they want. :dunno:

 

I dont get a couple experiences? i have a bjj blue belt, was getting near purple in mid 2007 when i tore my rotator cuff.

To increase my game i wrestled at a local junior college for nearly a year. i also boxed 3 years in my teens.

My whole argument is boxing is way more limited which makes it way harder. in a fight if you are overmatched you still have alot to fall back on. in boxing you dont.

This reminds me of arguing with people who say a mma lightweight would beat James Toney just as easily. Ignoring how much of an advantage being twice as strong as your opponent is. I couldnt touch a purple belt my first 8 months, than i gained 15-20 LBS and all of a sudden i could hang. and i have people telling me (who obviously have never hit the mat before) that strength means nothing etc etc etc.

 

Oh hell. Not to diminish your experience, but the way Andrew made it sound I thought you had boxed and fought MMA professionally.

Hell, I took Tae Kwon Do for 3 years as a kid. I have sparred boxing recreationally for better than 35 years. And I have a buddy that's a BJJ Black Belt that teaches who I've rolled with many, many times. I am not training in BJJ nor do I have any belts. I simply do it for the sake of excercise and it's free.

I wish I would have wrestled in high school because even compared to the football and basketball teams, those guys hands-down trained the hardest. They lifted with us, ran with the cross country team and obviously had their own 2-3 hours practices. Animals.

 

i had 3 unofficial mma amateur fights in orange county, winning 2 and losing 1.

i have done mma sparring with multiple professional mma fighters. from my experience boxing is far tougher. in mma rarely do you gnp guys in sparring, nothing like in an actual fight.

again, boxing is more limited therefore much tougher. being a concert pianist is harder than being a one man band, although one takes far more tools than the other.

 

Well, I hate to break it to you but MMA fighters typically do the same boxing sparring as boxers as part of their training. The skill level obviously isn't the same but the "Toughness" factor is.

From my experience, I hate taking random accidently elbows, knees, shoulders etc while rolling with a BJJ black belt. There is no headgear and I rarely ever don't have abrassions on my face simply from the struggle from position to position. And it's exhausting. From an endurance standpoint, and this is just me personally, I find it easier to spar for 3 minutes than ground grapple.

 

my point is simply this:

if i fight you and it is mixed martial arts and i am outmatched on the feet i can resort to clinching and fighting on the inside/shooting/ or simply maintaining distance and running due to the size of the octagon.

if i am stunned i can shoot a double or single and even if you sprawl i can hold on and take non leveraged shots and be saved by the referee without enduring a beating.

also if tired you can simply allow yourself to be taken down, or give up an arm for a submission etc. give up your back.

in boxing if you are outmatched you have to stand and exchange punches anyways. james toney took less damage losing to randy couture than he did in any of his boxing matches. same with jimmerson, rubin williams, botha. it takes more tools to do mixed martial arts, but definitely not more toughness.

i would argue that pure wrestling is more difficult than mma for the same reason, although it is not nearly as bad as boxing.

 

Wow, you act like you're trapped in a boxing ring with no way out if the going gets tough.

Personally I gotta say bull shit. It ain't easier to escape punishment in the cage..

Of course it isn't tough for a douche bag like Toney that gets subbed like it's an exhibition.

Anyways, I am done with the 'who is tougher' debate. It's pointless and without end.