How low do you go ?

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by BOSS, Sep 21, 2010.

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The lowest I'll go is

  1. 130 pounds

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  2. 126 pounds

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  3. 122 pounds

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  4. 118 pounds

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  5. 115 pounds

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  6. 112 pounds

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  7. 108 pounds

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  8. 105 pounds

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  1. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I don't know - some outdated logic here if you ask me. Heavyweight fights seem to be sold on past glory, but how many of them are ending in knockouts these days? I understand your point that because they're heavyweights, the threat exists of one punch changing the fight. But until that moment comes, what we're left with is some very ugly boxing.

    I guess I'm the opposite - I'd rather watch a steady stream of action, rather than 10-12 rounds of crap in hopes of that one punch finally landing.
     
  2. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I can understand your take completely. I guess I just enjoy the crap:giggle:
    The thing is, watching two guys, big or small, punching each other is something you can not reason. That's why also one kind of boxing taste is no more reasonable than another. This coming from someone who rather rewatches Hopkins-DLH than any Gatti-Ward..
     
  3. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

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    126 is my limit...and I only started watching Featherweight because of Hamed and then subsequently Barrera, Morales and Pacquiao.
     
  4. BOSS

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    Same
     
  5. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    But thinking about it - your logic actually suits the very reasons why I enjoy watching guys like Vic Darchinyan, Jhonny Gonzalez, Rafael Marquez, JuanMa, Gamboa (his last fight notwithstanding), etc. All are threats for a knockout to occur on both sides of the equation. They have fight altering power, but are also flawed enough (leaky defense and suspect chins) to where it stands a good chance they get dropped and/or possibly even stopped at any given moment.

    Getting away from knockouts, I can appreciate the fact that a guy like Yonnhy Perez has the physical capacity to go full throttle for 12 rounds but also the mental state to dare to outlast you for all 12 without feeling the need to make it a chess match. But from your perspective, I can understand why a rematch with Joseph Agbeko doesn't exactly whet the appetite (to be honest, I could do without it myself, though will still watch since I like both fighters).

    For me, there are too many heavyweights these days where I can live with just catching the highlight reel in the event that something major happens. Whereas even though I was in awe watching David Diaz-Erik Morales live at ringside, I still felt the need to get second-by-second updates of Vazquez-Marquez II occurring at the very same time elsewhere in the country.
     
  6. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Why would you say this?

    Did I hurt your feelings in the catchweight thread? Toughen up.
     
  7. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    There are more Calderon-types in the lower weights, but it's really not that hard to find fighters and fights who meet your criteria in the lower weights.
     
  8. Double L

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    Perez/Agbeko II should be great. The first fight was an excellent one, and I thought very close. I won't be surprised at all if Agbeko wins the rematch.
     
  9. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

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    see this is what I mean....who are these guys? :atu:
     
  10. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I agree their first fight was terrific. But for some reason, I feel like once was enough. Not to mention that this will be Agbeko's first fight since then, which means he'll have been out of the ring for 14 months by the time the rematch occurs.
     
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    perez is all action. his fights with agbeko and mares were great to watch live.
     
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    Relative to THEIR OWN SIZE, Little Guys DO Have 1-Punch Power Though...& For as Much as YOU Try to Portray the HORRID State of the Heavyweight Division as Anything OTHER than what it Really Is, it's COMICAL that You of All People would Even ATTEMPT To Shit on Another Division...



    REED:lol:



    REED:kidcool:
     
  13. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    U WOULDN'T Saunter Into the Ring & Slap ANN WOLFE Around....



    REED:mj:
     
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    Which Means U MISSED OUT on Guys like Michael Carbajal, Chiquita Gonzalez, Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson, Johnny Tapia, Ricardo Lopez, etc....All were AS GOOD if Not BETTER than they Names U Referenced...



    REED:mj:
     
  15. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

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    sure

    I'd rather see the bigger guys go at it
     
  16. Hut*Hut

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    How much attention do you pay to Tennis matches with players you know you could beat? Or football games where you know you could walk on and be the best guy on the field?

    Of course I want the professional athletes I devote my time to watching to be able to beat me at the sport. An 108lb man isn't beating me at anything.
     
  17. REEDsART

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    To Each his Own...

    Just KNOW that Carbajal vs. Gonzalez I is 1 of THE Greatest Fights EVER, Regardless of Weight Class...If U CAN'T Overlook the Admittedly DIMINUTIVE Stature & Enjoy Carbajal-Gonzalez I Based PURELY on the Fight ITSELF, REED Doesn't Know what Else to Tell U...

    UNbeknownst to U, U're DEPRIVING Yourself....

    REED:mj:
     
  18. slystaff

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    I don't doubt that.

    I just don't get the same fascination when watching these tiny fellas fight.
     
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  19. Double L

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    that's not a fair comparison.

    let me illustrate. suppose you're into predatory fish. and you like watching them fight. so you get a kick out of watching a pirhanna take on a snake-head. well, how can that be? any person could easily kill one or both of those fish.

    i know. it's a sick example and may sound sadistic (i personally wouldn't get joy out of watching two fish kill each other but i know for a fact there are people out there who do).
     
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  21. Double L

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    i don't know what that means. are you flicking me off? either way, any time the discussion has turned to something that's not plainly obvious to a young child, you should know that i'm not addressing you, nor am i interested in your feed-back. and i wouldn't expect a coherent response from you anyways.
     
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    It means you're crazy
     
  23. Hut*Hut

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    Sure. But then, even a low level journeyman of the same weight would.... so I'd probably just as soon watch him.

    If there's a good low weight fight on an undercard fight i'll watch it and enjoy it. I've never seen a good female fight, but if one came on i'd watch it too. I'm not dogmatic on the issue, just kinda giving my theorising for why I can't seem to get very passionate about diaperweight or female boxing.
     
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    OK, as strange as the analogy is, I see where you're coming from. As I said on my last post, im not dogmatic on the thing. I love watching a Ricardo Lopez or an Eder Jofre as much as the next guy, Im just explaining my strong preference for guys over around 122 and what I reckon the reason to be.:popcorn:
     

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