Ultimate Gracie

like who? And by "experience" what do you mean?

 

Remco Pardoel was a JJ guy so you have him, but all you have to do is see him fight to know he sucks.

 

20 years later and some people still cling to a boxer having a good chance against a bjj guy. unreal

Next, the Bruce Lee would kick everyone's ass meme will be revived.

 

having wrestling experience is far more important.

a 135 LBS wrestler can take down a 185 LBS man without too much of a problem. usually judo/jiu jitsu guys are not nearly as good with take downs.

 

A good boxer has never competed against a bjj fag, though.

 

Not to mention how the early rules of the UFC were set up for ju jitsu.

 

do you think judo is a legit form of self defense?

And how useful is it in mma?

 

Of course it is. Do you even know what Judo is? Do we need to list all of the successful MMA fighters that have backgrounds in Judo?

 

So it's just GIVEN that Gracie's Gonna AVOID Getting Punched @ All???...



REED:laugh11:

 

Yes.

 

Is it the LACK of Headmovement or the PAINFULLY ROBOTIC "Boxing" Stand Up of Gracie's, that Brings U to this Conclusion???...Fuuuuurthermore, does a Black Belt in BJJ Automatically = "Punch Resistance"???...



REED:mj:

 

no, no idea.

 

It's the double leg takedown that every boxer that's ever competed in MMA/Vale Tudo has been unable to defend.

 

Well it really does sound like it.

 

But name me a good boxer that has tried.

 

Botha, Mercer, Toney, Skelton, Arthur Williams, Julius Francis, Vince Phillips, Melton Bowen, Nishijima, Stephane Ouelette, James Warring

 

Matter of fact, this is how relevent boxing is in terms of actual Vale Tudo or MMA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCWHcuXCLRo


Pathetic.

A pro wrestler(not a real fighter)who wasn't even allowed to use wrestling moves, or kick unless he was down on a knee, and Ali gets his ass kicked.

 

It's funny despite all evidence to the contrary, boxers are still super humans who can KO other professional fighter in mere seconds before they can do anything to them.

A guy like Holyfield who isn't much regarded anymore for his power, and certainly not his accuracy than Ali, would KO a man who easily took down greater and larger fighters than him in mere seconds.

Yet Ali couldn't KO a fake fighter in what was essentially a kickboxing match with severe limits on kicks. ::

 

My God you have really outdone yourself this time. You do realize that this was totally staged right?

 

thanks for your contribution.

Winner by choke I look forward to reading your response to my question that was directed at you. ray:

 

It was? It doesn't look like it.

 

It was a real fight.They had to drain fluid out of Ali's legs.I thought Ali lost though

 

They told Inoki he couldn't even use submissions .

 

what a bitch, stomping him like a worthless thug would. Inoki's fights were all staged. Look at his MMA "loss" to this random guy and tell me this shit is not staged:


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The Ali fight was supposed to be some sort of exhibition, but Inoki's in his own world and actually made a fight out of it to preserve his "Japanese Warrior" image to his fans.

 

:: My point exactly. Warring!

 

Get the fuck out of here with this fake wrestling trying to call it real. The toothfairy is real too.

 

::

Amen Z.