Mir gets no KO bonus

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  1. BOSS

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    He didn't get one because his fight with cro cop sucked. Is that justified or not ? (Mir KO was the only KO of the night)
     
  2. TLC

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    Yeah.
     
  3. BOSS

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    I think It's kinda bullshit or at least rename it to Knock out of the night but only if it's an exciting fight bonus
     
  4. The Genius

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    If it's a bonus for scoring a ko and he did, then how can that be justified?
     
  5. His_Royness

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    Yeah the KO was sick, too - that's fucked up, imo.
     
  6. TraZ

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    its a double edged sword here

    i understand where dana is coming from where even though it was 14:50 of complete boredom, 10 seconds of violence doesnt justify you making 70gs

    but on the other hand, it says if you are in a boring fight dont try and go for the knockout in the last round?
     
  7. Anthony

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    Fuck that. No effort was put into that fight by either guy. Mir is lucky that knee landed. If Mir Missed that knee he would have said oh well and continued to suck. I like that he doesnt get shit. Next time try asshole.
     
  8. The Genius

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    It sets a bad precedent though. Now if you've been in a stinker of a fight, there's no incentive to go for it.
     
  9. Anthony

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    I disagree that Mir went for it. He shot a lazy knee and got lucky. He nor Mirko were trying in there. They were both playing it pretty safe. They were both pretty content leaving it up to the judges. People were booing the whole fight. You dont reward that kind of effort.
     
  10. The Genius

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    Just to clarify, I didn't see this fight. I just think that if you offer a ko bonus and a fighter scores one, then you should pay it. Fight may have been shit but a ko is a ko. Otherwise, you can use any old reason not to pay. Why even offer it in the first place?
     
  11. Anthony

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    But the person that gives out the bonus is the judge of the KO. Mir deserved his paycheck and thats it. You get bonuses for going above and beyong. Mir didnt do shit.
     
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    Agree. There wasn't even serious effort or intentions on the knee that got him the knockout.

    It was almost like Mir and Cro Cop had an agreement that the show must go on despite Mirko's eye injury. But they weren't going to seriously try and hurt each other.

    I've never thought about it in any other fight, but that knock out looked staged.
     
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    Cro Cop: Let me go, lets go to the center and fight
    Mir: Let's go to the mat
    Cro Cop: OK - if I'm on top
    Mir: We'll stay in the clinch
    Crocop: let's go to the center
    Mir: "Hell no! Hell no!"


    Actual quotes from the fight. Fuck these guys
     
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    Exactly.

    And bad fight or not, I'm sure UFC will get plenty of highlight-reel mileage from it.
     
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    :lol:

    Where did you get that? I actually did see them talking when up against the fence...
     
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    I stopped by a friends house yesterday and he was watching the fight and I noticed them casually talking, rubbed me the wrong way. Such BS
     
  17. *Z*

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    I think Godfather added the last two lines. When I saw that it ended with "let's stay in the clinch"

    The Bonus IS called Knock out of the night, it's not just a KO bonus.
     
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    Just checked and Godfather IS adding shit to the conversation.

    Cro Cop: Let me go, let's go to the center and fight.
    Mir: Let's go to the mat.
    Cro Cop: OK — if I'm on top.
    Mir: We'll stay in the clinch.
     
  19. Trplsec

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    I don't care how much he added. This conversation should be grounds for neither of them getting paid.

    If this causes fans to think that anything or any part of the fight is staged or premeditated, it will kill the legitimacy of the sport.

    Personally I hope the UFC does something.
     
  20. His_Royness

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    which it was...
     
  21. *Z*

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    Because it was the only KO of the night.
     
  22. *Z*

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    Why? Fighters talk shit to eachother all the time during fights. What is different about this?
     
  23. Trplsec

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    Talking shit is one thing. Chatting about an agreement on where to take the fight is another.

    To me it just demonstrates that neither guy is focuses on actually winning the fight but rather on safety first.


    I maybe reading too much into it I will admit.
     
  24. Anthony

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    I only saw it once. I could have been wrong.
     
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    Nah you are spot in. Its ridiculous. And the amount of shit mir talked? Im glad Cro-Cop slapped him
     
  26. *Z*

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    There was no agreement, just ribbing eachother. I guess you are looking deeper into it than I am.
     
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    Quote embellisher!!!
     
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    tattletale!!
     
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