Who seriously believes Margarito can win this Saturday Night

Let's Not Forget that Margarita's Defense has ALWAYS SUCKED...N MOST Instances, Margarita's CHIN Could Outlast the Punch & Stamina of his Opponent, but that WON'T B the Case Against Manny Pac...

Manny's Bit More ECONOMICAL w/his Punches These Days & he's More Apt to Use MOVEMENT, ANGLES & DISTANCE...The DISadvantage in SPEED will B GLARING...It'll Look like a Hare vs. a Tortoise in the Ring...The HEAVILY Hispanic Dallas Crowd will Make Margarita even MORE "Macho" than he Typically Is, Which Means his Defense will B even WORSE than Normal...

Manny Pac's Gonna Land FLUSH COMBINATIONS of Punches on this Cat & After 7 or 8 Rounds, it'll B CHURCH!!....




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Keep hyping Margarito to make Pac look good. We ain't buying it from Arum, we won't buy it from you.

 

On paper, Margarito has zero chance of winning. But this is boxing and anything can happen.

On paper Buster Douglas had no chance of beating a prime Tyson. None.

Margarito is extremely hittable and not very fast. Pacquiao has very fast accurate hands is moving constantly and doesn't stop throwing. On paper this adds up to a fatality for Pacman.

However, Antonio is much bigger than manny. MUCH bigger. Manny could be overconfident, who knows. What happens if Margarine happens to clock Manny hard?

Still I have to stick with "the paper" and predict a one-sided slaughter.

 

:: Exactly.

 

"on paper" before the De La Hoya fight this would have been considered a grotesque mismatch in favour of Margarito

 

yeah...but we have new information now...and so the paper has been updated.

 

True, and don't get me wrong Manny is quite rightly the favourite, but I don't agree with saying someone would have "zero" chance against a guy he would have been heavily favoured to beat just a couple years back. Remember Margarito is the biggest guy Manny has fought

 

Im no longer a Pac fan after PEDgate. I hope he wins to keep the fading hopes of getting the fight we all wanna see alive but beyond that I don't give a fuck.

 

Seriously, no.

 

I think most people are of the opinion that if Margarito hadn't the benefit of his plaster, we would not have been able to accomplish what he did. So by that premise, your argument that he has, "multiple wins over top fighters at these weights," goes out the window.

 

As I've said I find the notion that he got away with plastering his gloves in all those significant fights ridiculous. It's not like trying to PED it up in Texas...

 

I'm simply pointing out one reason it may seem to you that people are under-rating him.

I find the notion that he got caught the very first time he attempted it ridiculous.

And I also find the notion that he would feel the need to cheat for Mosley, but not for Williams or Cotto ridiculous.

 

Truth lies in the middle, for my money. I think he certainly had them for the Cotto fight.

 

He started loading his gloves just for the Cotto fight? Really Hut?

Double L used to be a huge Plasterito fan, even he sees sense now.

You can't say PLasterito has wins over top fighters. Sorry but you just can't.

We don't know for sure no, but quite possibly, he's used these magic wraps in EVERY significant fight he's been in.

 

Maybe. Or the fight before. Or the fight before. Or his very first fight. We don't know. Any answer is a pure guess. It seemed from the damage done to Cotto that his gloves were probably loaded. I don't see damage like that done in any previous fights, except the Cintron rematch to a lesser extent. And I don't think a guy can get away with loading his gloves in big fights fight after fight after fight after fight without it being noticed more than once every 45 odd fights. There clearly aren't systematic enough checks on these things, but people are around and people do look.

So my guess, and it is just a guess like it is for you, is that, the plaster was there for the Cintron rematch and Cotto fight and no other fights.

You can't say he doesn't have legit wins over top fighters any more than I can say he has. The above is my reasons for my assessment of his abilities going into this fight and if you see the plaster situation differently you'll come to a different assessment. Presumably we'll both agree that we should't have to make such guesses with view to predicting big fights like this because the cunt shouldn't be fighting.

 

Times change b

 

You are just as bad as Double L, just going in a different direction....

Yes Margarito is slow, punching powerless w/out his plaster, defenseless, etc..etc..but he is relentless regardless and for a few rounds he will try to be all over Pacquiao....


If Margarito was/is as bad as you described him....makes me wonder why FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. avoided/ducked him for sooo many years...

and yet another fighters that Mayweather failed to fight....but Pacquiao has no problem fighting....Clottey, Cotto, Margarito.....

 

Margarito is huge, weighing in at anything over 147 is giving Margarito the advantage. He's already much bigger than Pac, and now they are fighting at a wieght Pac's never fought at before. Margarito also has a very good chin, plaster or not, Cotto couldn't hurt him at all in their fight. I give Margarito a pretty good chance actually. I favor Pac obviously, but Margarito is game and will give Pac a good fight.

 

If Margarito beats Manny would Mayweather fight him? Or would be add him to his resume without fighting at all since Mosley beat him?

 

The latter.

 

He started loading them at the first Cintron fight, Margarito was supposed to be a stepping stone for Cintron and ended up beating him. I think that's where it all began.

 

Thanks for explaining to me how Margarito will be competitive, o wait you were just talking about Floyd Mayweather for some reason.

 

A pure guess implies no knowledge of the facts. And no common sense. So it's not a pure guess at all to think that his gloves were loaded for Cintron, Williams, and even Diaz.

And the fact is, he did NOT get away with it fight after fight after fight. He got caught. As we all know.

Let's not forget: Margarito, with or without plaster hand-wraps, has never been a one-punch KO guy. So it's not like we can say, oh, since he didn't give this guy or that guy a concussion, he must not have had plaster.

Fact is, Cintron quit before he could've absorbed the kind of beating Cotto took.

Williams, because of his complexion, would not have shown the kind of beating on the face that Cotto did, even if he received one. Plus, Margarito was economical with head-shots in that fight and went to the body mostly due to William's size.

Let's not forget about Lujan, who's ear was punched off by Margarito - and this was a long time ago !!!

 

Care to explain that after two hard two way battles with Clottey & Williams neither had any of the damage Cotto had despite taking plenty hard shots? Or why Cintron had none of the swelling he had in the first fight that he did in the second?

You can actually visually see the force of the impact in rematch and Cotto fight and how those guys cringed when they were hit with otherwise innocuous shots.

If there's a guess to be made, it's that the paster was added in the Cintron rematch, IMO.

 

I stand by my opinion. And Ok, fine, it's an educated guess we're all making here, if you wanna be pedantic, but we're all guessing none the less.

That being the case I've got nothing more to say about this. God forbid it looks like I'm trying to defend Margarito through any of this I think the fucker should be in jail.

 

Oh no you don't. This horse ain't dead yet. As I see it, we must repeat ourselves at least 6 more times before we're finished.

And it's clear nobody here condones Margarito's behaviors, so no danger there.

Seriously, though, did you see the Lujan fight? And like I said, Cintron didn't stick around long enough to absorb the kind of beating that Cotto did - in either fight. Nevermind that Cintron managed to last and even beat Angulo who obviously hits hard.

Even the second Santos fight, and the Kyvelos fight show signs of foul play in retrospect.

 

Honestly, you almost sound like a Plasterito apologist. Doubting he used the wraps on anyone but Cintron and Cotto.

As Double says, even the Lujan fight is fishy.

I'm a big fan of Pacman, but if it's proven he is roiding, I think it would be fair to say he's been roiding pretty much since Ledwaba. Again, it would be pretty naive to think otherwise.

Regardless of what you think, there is a BIG chance that he's used the magic wraps in every fight he's had since being on the world stage, and that possibility means you just can't say he has any legit wins over top fighters, not with the possibility he had fucking cement in his gloves.

How did he get away with it? How did Tito get away with borderline plaster of paris in his gloves for years?

Because evidently, it's not that fucking hard to slip one by the commision etc. If not for Richardson's dilligence, PLasterito would have entered the ring with those wraps against Shane.

The only thing I do agree on is that he should not be fighting. The mere fact that he is getting this fight puts a sour taste in my mouth, and is one of the reasons why I haven't really been following boxing recently.

 

We know one thing for sure: at least somebody will get a win at Cowboy Stadium

 

I'd never give any fighter a 0% chance of winning.. well except in certain extreme circumstances. I'd say it's like a 70/30 in Pac's favour.

 

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