Juan Manuel Lopez v. Rafael Marquez: Final predictions!

The rumor that Juanma has a suspect chin is out the window. He took some serious shots last night and took them very well. He dosent have a great chin but it's good enough to take a decent punch without folding. As for Juanma vs Gamboa, I think at this point it's a 50-50. For Gamboa to beat Juanma is gonna have to box a very well executed fight with very little room for error. We already know Juanma can take it and keep coming. The question is can Gamboa do the same against a big puncher like Lopez.

 

I hear that.

They got parts of it on Youtube but not the whole thing. They got some of the mid to late rounds.

He looked very amateurish honestly. Wild swings, leaving his feet to punch, chin in the air, bad balance, and was knocked down. The knockdown he suffered was partly due to his balance but he was caught with a punch too.

Overall, he won the fight on his speed and athleticism. He came on strong in the last couple of rounds, knocking Salido down but he lost two points for blatantly hitting a man who was down ala Arthur Abraham.

He got the win but showed nowhere near the boxing skills and pedigree that he is supposed to have. And his defense was HORRIBLE. Makes you wonder what would happen to him if he ever got tagged that way by guys like Lopez, John, or Caballero.

Admittedly, Lopez isn't great either. He's very good with power and toughness but he does have his flaws.

But to me Gamboa is not great either. He's just as flawed if not moreso than Lopez. He's shown little improvements but his last two fights have been rather unimpressive. The Mtagwa fight was his last impressive performance.

 

Gamboa is as wild as Juanma, you can even say that Juanma fights with better poise. Gamboa is a Zab Judah style fighter, all flash no substance. Juanma may beat him.

 

If anything, this fight brings into question Juanma's punching power. Nobody was close to going down in that fight except Juanma. And Marquez has never been known for his chin.

Also, Marquez clearly doesn't hit as hard at 126 as he had at 122 and 118. So I'm not so sure his chin is beyond question. His stamina is definitely amazing, much like Tito's was. But he's reckless. And it's questionable how effective he can be without the benefit of a significant size and strength advantage to impose.

Either way, he's a beast at 126. Somewhat vulnerable. But he's clearly one of those guys who can walk through opponents.

 

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The guy is just fe-wow-shuss!

 

He is. And he also seems to have amazing recuperative powers too. It's amazing that as many times as he's been hurt and/or knocked down in his short career, that's he's apparently not the slightest bit gun-shy.

 

Yup the guy has a throw back relentlessness. Very rare in boxing today. Im a fan.

 

He was getting his ass kicked the last 2 rounds, and his punches weren't affecting Juanma anymore.

 

He fucking quit. On his stool. Small Mexican stones.

 

He had a choice. Quit on the stool or quit on his back. He chose stool.:giggle:

 

Hopefully Bob will get brave and give Caballero the fight with Juan Ma in PR.

 

Regardless of whether he was hurt or not, I see no problem with the way it ended. Why disappointed? He would have most likely just got beat up some more. Saw that apparently its legit though and he'll be out for 6 months.

 

How do U Figure???...Most Suspensions for "KO Losses" in Boxing are 30 to 60 Days, Dependent Upon the SEVERITY of the KO....



REED:kidcool:

 

marquez was done and had no snap on his shots. it was a matter of time before he got smashed, with or without a healthy right arm

 

I don´t really care. Fighters like Marquez or Morales have earned the right to quit in their last big fights, when they are outgunned by younger fighters. Even in those seven rounds Marquez gave the fans a better show than most of the new young stars of boxing, who are more skilled in holding than boxing.

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From Fightnews

Green to protest loss

The team of Allan Green has formally notified the Nevada State Athletic Commission of their intent to file an appeal of referee Robert Byrd’s decision to call a halt to his Super Six bout this past Saturday evening against Glen Johnson at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Johnson was awarded a knockout victory at the close of the eighth round. Green went to the canvas after being on the receiving end of what he and his team feel were rabbit punches. Boxing attorney Josh Dubin has been hired to handle the appeal. Dubin is known for successfully overturning Timothy Bradley’s knockout victory over Nate Campbell to a no contest. The appeal will be filed by the end of the week, and the rules of the NSAC entitle Green to a decision within sixty days of the filing of his petition.

Yeah right. You are not getting another shot in this tournament.

 

Green is a fucking baby. Maybe if the guy could fight, there'd be a point to all this.

 

Greg Leon is a fuckin scumbag.

 

I agree with ElTerrible. Maybe some people see it as more black and white, but I think there's a big difference between say Victor Ortiz quitting, and Morales/Marquez quitting for example.

 

He is 35 and competing in the lower weight classes. A pro for 15 years and two weight division above his best. He just came through one of the most grueling trilogies and one in boxing history. He is old by every definition of a fighter in the lower weight classes. He was simply outgunned by one of the better young fighters out there. That is basically what everybody expected and it was reflected in the betting odds. The odds for Lopez by KO were very low.

 

I doubt you have the same opinion when one of your MMA heroes gives up.